This is Hearthstone.
Having the audacity to win is considered BM by many lol
This is Hearthstone.
Having the audacity to win is considered BM by many lol
I think whether this is bad manners is heavily dependent on how your opponent receives it. Itâs entirely subjective, if this is malicious or not. I mean, look at this topic. You have some players that might like to see exactly how their opponent couldâve countered them or beat them in different ways. On the other hand, you have players that feel this is poor sportsmanship, for instance.
So, yeah. As long as youâre not taking up an entire turn to demonstrate your dominance, this isnât necessarily bad manners. However, depending on your opponent it can be received as such.
You do you. If players donât like it, tough .
If you have to ask, it probably is.
The way I see it, if youâre asking, it implies you have doubts, which means there might just be that 0.0000âŚ1% chance that the other guy will find what you do (or not do) to be BM
If you want to be sure not to bm, just, like⌠donât do anything but play ânormallyâ
Yeah, well, but⌠he wants to demonstrate to his opponent how he couldâve won differently. I mean, he has lethal but also the ability to counter and so wants to show this off. /s
Iâd wager most players would find this to be bad manners if it were to happen to them. We have a much different bunch of players here, however, that might actually want to see how else their opponent couldâve played and won. I get that. It can be useful knowledge for future matches.
This is often true. But not in this case, I personally do not consider it BM, and consider it quite a silly thing to get upset over. But it is difficult to compress complex ideas into a succinct title, so there are certain shortcomings. I was just curious what people thought on the matter. So far it has been interesting to see the different responses.
Youâd be surprised what people can get upset over. I wonder how many monitors have been smashed over Hearthstone.
Iâm not responsible for other peopleâs inability to control their emotions. I never intentionally rope anyone; if me spending an extra ten seconds to show my outs before finishing lethal and that upsets anyone, I consider that a them problem. As for myself, I like to know these things.
Youâve said as much â that you understand how some players might feel.
For me, if Iâm getting my butt kicked, I often will simply want the match to end. And so, players that tend to do this can be irritating but I also feel itâs worthwhile to observe how else my opponent couldâve beat me. Knowledge is power.
I personally donât think itâs possible to BM in a game without chat, but I came to Hearthstone after cutting my teeth in SC2 and League of Legends. Whatever you consider toxic in Hearthstone, I guarantee you is a 2 on a 1 to 10 of just pregame chat with your own team in LoL. Before that, I stacked my quarters in the arcades playing Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter, and before that standing on milk crates to play Galaxian, so maybe my skin is a little thicker than most.
Iâm not saying itâs right to do it, but just saying, if you can get triggered by an emote or a slow play, be careful leaving the houseâitâs way worse out there.
Yeah i mean this one can go either way i think
I donât think itâs solely the emote or opponent delaying that pisses people off. I think some players take the game far too seriously and so emotions run high. Seeing your opponent say âthanksâ or sarcastically âwell playedâ is enough to push some players over the edge and into tiltville.
Sure, I understand that, but even such a demonstration can be seen as BM.
Sure, but itâs not about what you find silly or not. What matters is whether your opponent finds it silly (is BM) or not. If they find something triggering, theyâll get triggered.
The question really isnât âis this BMâ, as the answer is almost always âyesâ. Thereâs almost always someone somewhere whoâll be offended by what you do.
The question you should ask yourself is âwhat do I value more?â That is, do you value what you gain from whatever it is youâre about to do, or do you value not being perceived as someone who BMs?
Iâm not saying one way or another is correct. Each person decides for themselves and what is more important.
I think another question to ask oneself is âhow will my next action affect my opponentâ? I mean, clearly the OP has an idea that what he is doing is bad manners, otherwise this topic wouldnât exist. If you suspect rolling your opponent and then further making plays for show might upset your opponent, perhaps you shouldnât do it.
Iâm all about peace and love.
I donât generally do this, but Iâm usually ok with letting other people play out their deck/turn even if Iâm toast. As long as they do it quick and clean.
I play a lot of homebrews, and Iâve noticed people are a lot more lenient about letting you play out your turn if theyâve not seen your deck before.
This is really bad sportsmanship. Personally, if a person starts doing that to me, I just concede. Iâd rather just get into the next game.
I donât see why it matters that you had answers to that particular board - itâs pretty unlikely the next match will play out the same way, even if the same classes were to match up again - people could be playing a different deck, or gotten much better/worse RNG if you play⌠shudders âŚarena.
For standard, itâs pretty easy to know what you will be up against once the meta has settled, as Iâd argue most people run meta decks.
So showing your hand is nothing more than kicking a person while they are down, as well as, wasting more time.
You also donât know any active quests your opponent has. So if they play multiple cards on their way to lethal it is no big deal.
I couldnât have put it better myself.
IF this nonsence starts to happen thats when i open the concede window and shut it down right there i normaly let my opponent finish me off but if i see this kind of disrespect im out.
Have you people no spirit of adventure?
Have you never had a game that appeared to be so close, and if the slightest thing were different you could have won? And you never wondered if the other guy maybe had another out?
Because for myself, I might think lame, if he hadnât had that exact card I would have won. But then I find out that he had another answer (from a pool of lets say 5 cards total that could have won him the game) and I think to myself, oh well I guess I would have lost anyway.
I donât believe in playing out your hand every time you are about to win (but I believe I made this clear in the OP), but I really see no problem with showing your outs in a particularly close game, and if you are quick this wonât take more than 10-15 seconds.
Todayâs game, me depending a lot on the RNG and today my synthesis was very confusing, it responds to all the enemyâs threats while he kept sending me well-played expressions and laughing, he had a total of 26 copy cards, my essential cards they were in the last 3 cards of my deck, I ended up beating the guy while he was still sending expressions, I won by survival.
Simple. I am not interested to see what my opponent has and in what ways he can finish me off. It doesnât give me any valuable information on what I couldâve done differently or if I considered that game was close, but it was not. There is a deck tracker for that kind of info. If I lose the game, I lost the game. Yes, I consider that BM.