This definitely appeared to be the case with Reno warrior, and I suspect it will be the case here. Mage just gets too popular when it has a deck that isn’t complete garbage in standard, and it seems to get nerfed more than is logically warranted.
I so wish the playerbase would try harder to counter things rather than cry for nerfs one day after new cards are released
That’s a bingo!
Me too.
Like legend everyone plays this sh9t. How can someone like the game, the same every now and then, it’s like with paladin for the last years.
Lamplighter winrates were declining when it got nerfed after the xpac release at high levels too for reference to recent nerfs. That was certainly a popularity driven nerf.
Pupil was probably a more warrented nerf considering it was prevalent in a lot of top decks at the time it got nerfed.
Sea shill and conman in mage and pali kind of demonstrate the weakness with burgle decks. Look at how much better those cards are when you can consistently choose what they target instead of spending mana first to discover random cards that they might be good on. You lose no turns getting value on those cards in mage or pali where as in Rogue it requires a set up turn and to draw a card that discovers, and that you can play, to use them effectively. You might have them in hand for multiple turns before they pay off. Its crazy to be able to just jam sea shill on 2 into a 5/6 or to see it discount Skyla to 3 xD.
For reference… people would lose their minds of rogue could discount sonya to 2 mana with sea shill and it would barely do anything on turn 4
Turn 5 itd probably find something crazy to do 
I must have hallucinated the last iteration of BSM being Tier 1 for like a year
it gets rough when there are 4 tsunami cards, 2 audio splitters in the opening hand, multiple portalmancers (idk how) greedy partners and metal detector weapons for more mana, khadgar, etc. not used to seeing mages with that much armor either lol.
BSM needs some refinement, like right now im running a list with pozzik and mixologists and griftah amd neophytes and having more success than i had with any type of surfalopod list
It’s definitely t1. I think you just chose to ignore that this is a deck that wraps the meta around itself and because that It’s stats are lower then they should be. The absurdly high playrate means the mirrors are very common lowering it’s winrate even further not to mention this deck keeps out entire archetypes out of the meta. It’s the same as with zilliax warrior before and it will most certainly get nerfed. You can try to be in denial but it won’t help this deck to stay as it is now.
To be fair: “wrapping the meta around oneself” only needs to be played a lot and not be great. Why? Because people will farm it; they will make decks to farm it; they will make decks to farm it even if it’s tier 4.
they gonna nerf you skyla!
Yes, depending on your rank. At the top ranks it’s weaker.
This effect is quite minor.
HSGuru has its combined win rate at 51.2%. if you account for the mirrors at a 35% prevalence, that brings it to a 51.8% win rate, which is enough to make it the 8th strongest deck at top legend instead of the 9th.
Which ones? Almost everything at the top of the meta charts last week are still performing better than BSM at top legend, even with mage being 35% of the meta there. The only notable one pushed into tier 3 was highlander druid.
Yep. Plague DK has even at times in the past been a bit meta warping through high play rates even though the deck was never good.
Highlander warrior frequently did the same after it got nerfed because the popularity did not drop.
Probably, but it won’t be because big spell mage is too strong of a deck. It’ll be because Skyla in the mulligan massively increases the odds of winning, and blizz isn’t a huge fan of games being warped by 1 card like that, especially when in this level of frequency.
I expect any nerf to her to be a light touch though, likely to 6 Mana.
I think conman and sea shill should be changed too. There is no reason they should be borderline unplayable in rogue and be auto includes in mage. I dont think they were intended to work the way they do now in the deck. I liked your suggestion yesterday of “cards that didnt start in your deck”
Also how can they justify maestra and Eudora costing the same amount as skyla when they do nothing when played and rarely do you even see the payoff for them
Kinda goes against the “if everything is broken nothing is broken” argument when these legendaries continue to be awful. Along with sandwich warrior, big DH, wheel warlock etc…
Yeah, in principle I’m not a fan of those cards being weakest in their home class.
Didn’t start in deck is at least evenly applicable to all 3.
I would even be fine if they left skyla at 5 and adjusted those two cards instead.
It would slow down the set up and limit the follow up while still allowing the turn 4 or 5 pop off
Obviously i still want them to make maestra and Eudora more viable lol
lol welcome to Priest buddy
Complains mage is too weak
Refuses to play the strong mage decks out of principle.
Please pick one and shut up.
Not at all. Vad decks don wrap the meta around