You can not win with anything else but naga. Extremely overpowered.
Whatever i tried nothing works, because every other type minion on turn 7-8 face 30-40hp naga minions while mine are max 10.
Buddies removed, like 80% heroes are completely trash.
Games are completely rigged, you can not even build other minions except naga. It’s who fastest go to tier 6 and get lobby rest can go and just concede right away.
Are they going to do something or they just trying to boost bs naga expansion? And after some time make all minion types viable again?
Here’s what is happening every day now, have plenty videos of this bs.
Not fun, not interesting, boring, very unpleasant to play.
Although i agree that the nagas are incredably tough the other minion types are still VERY viable. Deathrattle beast is still silly OP if u get it working. Murlocs have been given a buff with the new murloc card and is destroying in games. Of course nagas are going to be everywhere right now they have just been released and everyone is going to want to play them. The best warbands I have seen combo nagas with another minions type. For example Naga spells plus soul devourer is a great combo if your running demons. Taunt plus murloc warband is very good (due to murlocs low start health).
Regarding 80% of heroes being “trash” now their is no buddies thats not entierly true. You can make any hero viable as you don’t need a hero power in order to win. yes it gives u an advantage but it isnt everything. For example I won with Greybough using Murlocs and Murlocs have no way to drop minions in battle so i got 0 use out of my hero power.
Sorry to break it to you but beasts and murlocs may be good for a top 4 finish but you’re never winning, coming first, without playing Naga
Last game I had a board of pretty much nothing, got taken down to 1 hp. I end up winning with 341/339, 143/143, 175/175, 92/93, 127/125, 39/40.
I sold a 100+/100+ minion just to make some space to play spellcraft minions, Had a triple and two single Athissa, triple siren and two triple Shoal Commanders, from that point onwards. I literally wouldn’t have to play a single other card and I’d outscale every single other tribe now mater how good a roll they got.
The fact that I can easily add windfury and divine shields on top of stupid stats makes Naga a joke.
Naga is a joke. Every Joe blow is using them and 1st place comps are all the same. More toxic than nuclear fallout.
Try golden Baron Rivendare with mechs or beasts. Ggwp.
I don’t know how to tell you this, but if you think deathrattle beasts is a viable comp at ALL you are probably sub 5k MMR.
There are two viable comps at all - Naga or scam poison / leroy. Everything else is trash.
Agree with everyone, Naga’s have completely taken over the game. No other tribe has had this type of power and the ease of building them. Sucks, I can’t believe they thought this was a good idea.
What’s the winrate of Naga though? They don’t seem that overpowered to me. I’ve actually had better times without Naga lately than with Naga.
Even tho I agree that Nagas are overpowered, the real problem for me is the framerate. APM Pirate would have good chances in this meta because everybody is forcing nagas so it’s much easier to find 2 golden hoggars. But with this framerate it’s just impossible to play them.
It would be nice from Blizzard to act swiftly because many people will just stop playing the game due to the
- Horrible meta
- Buggy client
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Agree with all the above. By far the worst patch BGs has ever seen. It literally just comes down to who high rolls Nagas and blows everyone else out of the lobby.
People can say Deathrattle Beast and Mech all they like but you can only win if the Naga high roller takes a lot of early damage AND you dodge them through mid game AND you the first time you play them you knock them out in one punch.
Hate this tribe.
The biggest problem with naga is you only need 1-2 “First spellcraft used on this minion is permanant” nagas then the “Give a minion +1/+1 for each naga you have” and bam, you now have one minion with as much stats as your opponents whole board, and if you triple the perma naga you end up with 400/400+ by end of the match… all the other nagas are reasonable besides that one. Its just a buffed Tarecgosa with fewer restrictions… The only other thing nagas have going is to make any minion large, windfury, taunt, and divine shield, which is very strong with scam poison or stacked on the naga above, ie an early 100/100 divine sheilded, windfury, taunted minion while everyone else has like 10/10s.
That’s not the real problem minion it is powerful to the extent that it will carry you through mid game but the real issue is the combo of Siren and Athissa especially if you have the discover Naga minion. Basically first person to get that combo ends up smashing the lobby.
Played 2 Naga games as I had the BG mission, and OH MY GOD. The first battle already was way too easy once I got Nagas, but at least it could still be called normal. But that second battle I had was INSANE. I’d get 4 Nagas in my hand each turn (EDIT: actually, 6, I only counted the 4 end-of-turns each turn, but I also had 2 Discovers each turn), everything kept tripling as a result, I got a whole bunch of spells, a bunch of permanent benefits for casting them on top of their temporary effects, permanent Divine Shield on the important Nagas, insane stats on the triple-stat golden Naga, etcetera.
I wasn’t even playing that game properly: being only my second time with Nagas and I hardly ever play BG in the first place, I was absolutely overloaded and went turns without buying anything from Bob because I was so busy using all the cards in my hand each turn and whatnot. I shudder to think what someone used to Nagas would’ve done with the insane board I had.
Yea take nagas out at least don’t have them EVERY game. This is ridiculous. If four people go nagas. You’d think the other races would be available more to find. Yet these four people have a very nice high stat build and i’m struggling just to find a dragon. Yet if i decided to go nagas I’m willing to bet i would have found a decent build since i too was finding them in the tavern. But i’m not trying to go nagas every round. its now become over done. but trying for a different race seems almost impossible to pull off since the find rate seems to be dropped considerably.
Ive achieved many first place without using nagas its quite possible and yes in those games others did use nagas. Battlegrounds has and always will be an RNG game as there is no guarentee you are going to get your triple cards especialy 2 of the same triple as you got in the game you mentioned.
Regardless of this i couldnt give a damn about top teir MMR games as i play this game for fun and thats it and in my games nagas although strong arn’t everything. I Don’t take it seriously and don’t care if i win or lose.
Also didnt this same thing happen when quillboars joined battlegrounds. I remember them being “So OP everything else is pointless” now u barely see them being played.
The only reason nagas are strong is because of the “I have to win every game” mentality that players seem to have so of course they will just go ham and pick the strongest type but never have fun with it.
Nagas will eventually go into rotation but blizz just wants them played. I imagine what will happen if blizzard had any sence is take the 2 weeks of data, realize nagas are a bit to strong compared to everything else then introduce some nerfs to bring them more in line with other minion types.
I agree that Nagas have become overdone which is why i barely use them now.
I’m glad its not just me that struggles to get synergy in games when your trying to play a certain type. I think something needs to be done about that like a guarentee that you get at least 1 minion of the most promonant type on your warband every 3 refreshes or something. So many times i play a hero and i try to use the minion type they favour and i get screwed.
I’ve beat the naga, but its just not very good chances. Super hard to build anything against a fast slimy scaled deck.
Everyone plays the game for fun. That’s why the Naga patch is the worst. It’s not fun when it’s just a race to play the same comp. At least with the recent Murloc meta there was some counter play with mechs and dragons. There is no reliable counter right now to the Naga build.
I don’t know what your soft MMR is but but nearly every lobby I’m in, most of the streams I’ve watched including the recent lobby legends the vast majority of final comps are based on Athissa/spellcraft. For regency I remember one particular game where I high rolled double Kalecgos turn 8 and still got blown off the board by this Naga nonsense. Watched a turn 6 Nomi blown off the board. The non Naga comps that win are the exception not the rule (high roll Galliwix APM pirates for instance).
I’ve been playing BGs since launch. I experienced Tirion, tier 5 Djinni that could discover tier 6 eles, various murloc metas, leapfrogger meta, cobalt guardian meta etc. etc. This is the first time I’ve ever felt the need to complain. The entire point is it’s not fun.
I feel like all they need to do is remove Tidemistress Athissa to really bring Naga down to everyone else’s level. It feels like a race to get to rank 6 and get her and a Stormscale siren. The first one who can combo that usually wins.
I’ve climbed to a little over a 3k rating playing this casually, so maybe it’s better at higher ranks, but I’ve only seen one person heading toward a win without Naga and it was a Flurgl with a golden board, including a young-murkeye.
I’ve also one won with a mixed board as Lich King with a rebirthed Leroy in the front and two mantid queens.
But seeing victory without being the first to get the Athissa/Siren combo is pretty rare.
Only way to fix battlegrounds is to ban all
The “elite” players and give all players equal opportunity to get the cards they need. Enough of this RNG garbage.
