Battlegrounds is so rigged, you will not change my mind

I stand by my statement. Nothing is truly random. Everything is determined by an outside force.

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That’s between you and your faith, which isn’t relevant to anyone else.

I said nothing about faith.

Then physics says you’re wrong, regardless of what you choose to stand by.

And it’s less than 0.1% when you high roll and win and it’s less than 0.1% when you go 4th when you should be 5th and it’s less than 0.1% when you lose even more horribly than the other time you lost and so on and so forth.

You generally have a very bad understanding of probability.

Something most humans don’t get intuitively because we didn’t evolve in nature to be mathematicians, is that the expected chance is NOT what you will get in the short term.

E.g. if a simple coin drops: it will not be heads-tails-heads-tails… but it will likely be heads-heads-heads-heads-tails-heads-tails-tails and so on and that’s also TRUE randomness.

To go further:

Any individual string of results of flipping coins is equally likely. Flip ten times, and any sequence of ten results has the exact same probability of occurring. HTHTHTHTHT is no more likely than HHHHHHHHHT.

But, “five heads” is much more likely to occur than “one head.”

Most people have trouble understanding why.

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The odds of this scenario happening 5 turns in a row with an average of 4.5 minions on board is a 1 in 1845 chance. This is unlikely but I have witnessed far worse odds happening in my own game and while spectating friends-- the worst being a friend who had a 1 in 175,000 scenario happen to him in game and my personal highest odd was about 1 in 44,000.
To put things in perspective, you being born is on a magnitude millions or billions of times more unlikely than this interaction.

These things happen, it doesn’t mean the game is rigged.

Is there any legit logged cheating in BG? Besides F2P vibes sucking this season, this probability you are all talking about is brutal.

I once had snake eyes roll one four times in a row, its rigged!

You’re jumping quite a few steps ahead without knowing the previous steps

True randomness and what we call luck is simply a residual function of all the variables working together of which we aren’t able to count and measure all or most of them with our technology.

But it’s going to be possible some day in some systems with finite number of variables.

We’ve already proved that the whole Einstein’s spacetime can be reduced to just one constant - second. That means that we can measure everything in the Universe just by using an atomic clock.

Your true randomness is less aand less likely.

And if you really need some help to process this, imagine you have a machine which can measure the forces acting on a die, including the power with which you throw it, and then calculate the number of flips it will do until it lands. In those perfect scenarios, you can literally predict the number it will show after every throw. How’s that for random then?

Exactly.

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It’s way more likely Blizzard being cheap and copy pasting spaghetti code causing repeated streaks of the same RNG than it being some sophisticated planned rigging system.

Nah. Quantum mechanics says no.

Now, QM could still be wrong. But people have been trying very hard to break it for more than a century now, and it is the most verified scientific theory in history.

Nothing has been really verified. What has actually been happening is that people bought tickets for a show and watched the show to get impressed and confused.

What has been verified is simply the result of a strange experiment which we don’t understand, nothing else.

Besides, Google has confirmed the existence of Multiverse (using their brand new quantum processor to do it), and the newest promising theory now is that the answer to the quantum question lies in our mirror universe (where we’ll probably gonna find the answer to the Dark matter question, as well).

That is a neat and elegant resolution of the quantum paradox, and one which dissolves with this probabilistic nonsense and spooky action at a distance.

That’s completely irrelevant to Hearthstone. Blizzard servers run typical server CPUs that include hardware random generators with instructions like RDRAND and RDSEED.

Those generators seed their entropy from literal quantum-world fluctuations in the literal physical environment around the processor.

Those are impossible to predict even if you are inside the Blizzard datacenter.

You would literally defy Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle.

Oh, like it would be the first time a known physics law has been violated.

Newton also had principles, we’re still learning them in schools, but newton’s laws work on Earth only, and only approximately, too. We’ve since advanced to the quantum gravity and quantum mechanics, and can you honestly tell me that you firmly believe THAT is going to be the final set of principles?

Simple mathematical induction is enough to tell you there’s gonna be more. A lot more.

EDIT: Here’s an example from biology. Recently, a new type of life has been found living inside of us and named “obelisks”. Read more about it here:

https://www.earth.com/news/scientists-find-new-forms-of-life-inside-humans-rna-carriers-obelisks/

If that doesn’t prove that we’re not even close to discovering new things that break our known rules and principles, then I don’t know what does.

…no.

There are specific, testable predictions that are then executed via experiments and the results are what was predicted.

Fortunately, your willfully ignorant nihilism isn’t what motivates actual scientists and engineers. Yet your very ability to communicate the full depths of your lack of scientific understanding demonstrates otherwise. Both the computer you used to make this post and the internet that was used to broadcast it rely entirely on the very principles you claim don’t exist.

So, kindly, keep it to yourself.

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The first person who finds an actual violation of Heisenberg uncertainty will win a Nobel prize. Many people have been trying, and it has never failed.

Yes, it’s not like we can’t move past it. But your “we can’t ever know anything” runs up against a massive amount of real-world proof that we know a lot.

Keep in mind that Newton wasn’t wrong, either, just incomplete. Classical mechanics still works just fine for many things. The discovery of quantum mechanics didn’t change that.

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If quantum uncertainty did not exist, electrons would collapse into the nuclei of atoms.

Good luck having predictable RNG in Hearthstone when matter itself wouldn’t exist.

Nope, we’re not running quantum computers in our homes yet, so I don’t know what you’ve been taking, but it’s not helping you

Sure, tell that to my professors and magazines that published my scientific articles then

Sure, I’m far from being a physicist, but still, you’re talking nonsense and you couldn’t be more wrong if you tried.

And yet you think quantum gravity and mechanics are complete? While even my grandparents know that it’s far from that, and unification with other forces just isn’t possible with our current theories. Why?

Because they suck.

Anyway, this is it for me. There’s no point in discussing against someone so dense and ignorant. Besides, time will tell who’s right.

Semiconductors would not exist.

Just leave the pseudoscience.

Google a bit about it.