So everyone pretty much uses Hearthstone Deck Tracker right now in Battlegrounds… I see every streamer using it. I just got banned in one of the chats for asking if it was cheating and got accused of not playing the game.
I do play the game, I don’t use 3D party apps, is this behavior bannable? Specially for streamers who bluntly use these apps to get an advantage and constantly check on what their opponent has to make important choices.
I don’t understand why Blizzard isn’t doing anything about this, it is unfair for players who choose to play the game as is. We are practically forced to download the app and use it to match others. Not cool.
I don’t think anyone can make an argument about it being OK or consider it to not be cheating. Blizzard not being able to control it or not caring is another thing.
Card games will always have a memory component into them. Good memory = better player. This is just not fair.
I remember a post regarding this. The deck tracker remembers cards that were already in play, but does not predict what another player will use. It does calculate win % based on the current fight, but not future ones. The reason it’s used is due to a “pen and paper” thing. Theoretically, you could jot down what players have used and get a calculator to predict win %'s. The program just does the writing down immediately.
Yeah, thats the whole point, programs are created to give instructions to computers to perform tasks for us that we would find either extremely repetitive or tiresome, with the addition that they can do it in a time no human will ever be able to.
For example: card counting is NOT illegal under federal, state and local laws in the United States as long as players don’t use any external card-counting device or people who assist them in counting cards.
Also, why isn’t this allowed in tournaments? I see players with pen am paper there, seems cumbersome…. And they do the same in chess! How primitive!
Isn’t that just for gambling reasons? Also, it’s a multinational game. If you want to get real nit picky, the biggest user base is in china, which I don’t think follows the US laws. I mean, it’s a handful of reasons why it’s allowed. I personally don’t use it, bc I can follow along and remember what’s going on, and through experience, know when something is going to be played. It’s fun to be surprised, tho. But hey, if you want to be #1 ranked legend and go to tournaments, it’s a good idea not to be surprised.
Use it or don’t? You have full capability to even the playing field. I mean, my toe peels. I got a handful of options- Wait for the chunk to uncomfortably fall off, or painfully peel it off. OR I can grab a pair of clippers and cut it off, stopping it from being painful and end the peeling process. But using an outside tool would be cheating, right? As long as my experience is as uncomfortable and painful as possible matters, right? I mean, if I’m skilled enough in pulling, I could painlessly remove the skin, but that would require too much time I have. Considering people use pumice stones and other options to groom their feet, I need to find a way to catch up to a smooth toe.
And? It is their choice to play HS on mobile. Noone is forcing them.
It’s like you went to a motorbike race with a bicycle, and demand that all use a bicycle, because you didn’t bring a motorbike.
Horatio, your skill for bad translations and analogies baffles me. It’s like you can’t even think right past your ego.
I understand that you might feel attacked and thus try to justify yourself of cheating because you use the apps. But that is because deep down you know you are cheating and that’s what makes you mad.
You are basically blaming mobiles users who are the principal victims here.
To correct your analogy/translation again: it is like going to a bicycle race with a bicycle, and someone brings a motorcycle and races with it and wins.
I can’t fandom how you don’t understand that Blizzard as the creator of the game should guarantee equal possibilities across all platforms, specially if they get matched between each other. That’s what all games do, (it’s logical) sometimes they go as further as separating match making.
I don’t use it. It is my choice not to use it, because I play on PC, and I am not egoistic enough to try to force MY choices onto others. The one with overgrown ego here is you. Try to see past it.
Again, and I don’t know how to stress it, noone is forcing them to play HS on a mobile phone. Therefore, they can’t be a victims by definition.
But, since you are so overly considerate, I expect you to immediately stop playng HS at all. Because there are people, who don’t have any computer or a phone, and thus can’t play HS at all. After all, it is only fair. They are the victims, forbidden to play anything. So, you shouldn’t play either. Or admit you are a hipocrite.
That’s not correction, that is completly different analogy for a different situation.
Why? Because you demand it? It is their game and they can do whatever they want. HS is fundamentally unfair in all its aspects.
Make your own game, and then you can impose your own rules.
You don’t need to be forced… what is wrong with you? If I want to play on the phone because the game is available there, I expect same winning chances, or are you saying it would be ok for mobile users to have less turn time, or less cards? Or less mana?
Do you seriously not find something wrong with it? Don’t you think people would complain? How hard is it you thick headed boy.
I am not saying people that have a PC should trash it an play on phone because some can’t afford a PC That’s just you with your twisted head trying to sound smart thinking you have forced the logic and thus proved it wrong. But all you have done is failed miserably yet again and embarras yourself three times (translation, analogy, and now this).
Blizzard is responsible for their game and what they provide. People not being able to afford a PC nor a phone nor internet have nothing to do with this.
How is it that you went from.
“A cross platform game should put all players on equal footing”
To
“No one should have a PC because not everyone can afford it”
Besides the lack of connection between the two, Blizzard is only responsible for the first one.
Straight out trolling by now. Once a cheater always a cheater they say.
If Blizzard wanted the functionality these apps provide they would have created them themselves. Why are others rather than Blizzard messing with Blizzard’s game?
If you are so bad that lacking a tracker makes you lose, that’s your problem. Not the trackers’.
This is a demagogy. And you know it. What is wrong with you?
I seriously don’t find anything wrong with some poeple choosing not to use the tracker.
Obviously, you complain. So I know people complain. How exactly you missed somthing this obvious is beyond my understanding.
Name calling is a proof you don’t have an actual argument. Also, against forum rules.
You are doing exactly the same thing by claiming people should be forbidden to use the tracker, because SOME people can’t.
I was just providing an example of the same “logic” you were using in hopes you realise how crazy you sounded. And IT WORKED! Yey.
THey are responsible to provide only what they promise to provide. There is no promise to support, or forbid, a tracker on any particular platform.
No, I went from “some people can’t use tracker, therefore noone shoud” to “some people can’t use PC or phone, so noone should”. At least read what I write, if you decide to missquote it.
That’s just you with your twisted head trying to sound smart thinking you have forced the logic and thus proved it wrong. But all you have done is failed miserably yet again and embarras yourself three times (translation, analogy, and now this).