Really wish they would swap out some of the older minion types in bg with new ones. Might make the game exciting again
Maybe if they didn’t have stupid gimmicks that flat won games it would be more fun, too.
It’s pretty much high roll or die like standard. It sucks.
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The devs are obsessed with scam builds and adding gimmicks to elevate the aggression that won’t change anything
Bobs tavern has needed an over haul for years to give more variety and fairness but it has never been touched
Players who play bgs that use their imagination get punished
Players who play the same build that we see a million times get rewarded
Nothing will ever change because they don’t know how to
So many quality of life things could be added but they can’t be bothered as they are focused on adding more ways for Devine shields to get refreshed
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Uh they swapped out a huge chunk of the pool from last season. What are you talking about??
So the same approach they’ve brought to standard?
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Obviously they didn’t remove the scammy ones, though.
Scam didn’t exist in the last meta. The only thing making it interesting right now is the fact that Scam is back in the meta again.
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So your first post is clearly non sequitur.
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Then your reply supports this assertion.
I think I and the previous posters disagree with you massively.
But I also think you’re defining scam differently than they are.
I clearly said I wish they would swap out older minion types, not older minions. Remove elementals, beasts, Pirates, etc and add new minion types.
Scam is a build in the game. You want to remove a style of build from the game entirely?
Sorry i misunderstood what you were asking for. That would be interesting and i am sure they will add something down the line. The problem is the same the current HS game has. Balance would be an absolute nightmare and they would need a large amount of resources to create new tribes.
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You don’t even know what scam is. You just use the word to point to anything you don’t like.
No, it’s exactly the opposite. And the core problem is that you think you’re in one group when you’re actually in the other.
That is true, but I think in order to retain players, they are going to have to keep the few modes they have entertaining. Once people hit legend in rank they are probably like me and play a lot of bg so at least keep it interesting so that it doesn’t become stale. That or add something back like duels. That mode was generally fun to me.
I mean, yes, when it’s just cheesing a couple minions and everyone else can blank off…
I don’t think this is the issue so much as the design directions for these classes aren’t interesting.
Pirates are hot garbage outside of DR scams.
Beasts are boring and require exact pieces and highroll.
The sort of incremental strategies that defined the game in the early years no longer exist.
I think the biggest issue with the current mode is when you trinket offering don’t actually match your board, and that happens too often.
I had a board of entire quilboars and got offered trash options unrelated to my board like menagerie or demon synergy. I had a weaver and five demons and got offered mech trinkets… like, huh? This flat kills games.
How do you propose you deal with big stat minion boards without scam in the game?
I don’t think tech and scam are synonyms.
I had a game the other day where my opponent basically went all in on a giant minon with taunt. I taunted a leroy and won the second match. That’s not scam.
That’s a TERRIBLE build though. IF you can be scammed by 1 Leeroy you aren’t a very good player.
That isn’t scam.
That’s the point. Calling adding a leroy or a venomous scam is not what’s meant here.
It’s scam when it replaces a build rather than supplements one.
Counter play to an opponent board is good play, scam is not counterplay.
That is absolutely scam. Leeroy is always scam.
There’s no actual difference between the two things. Either a minion is stats, scaling (e.g. Brann), or it is scam. If it uses up a board slot, it’s replacing something.
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It is scam but just to one minion. A scam BUILD is one that scams the entire board. Something that is needed in BG’s when your opponent has a board full of minions in the several hundreds or thousands. Are you saying it’s acceptable to let big stat minion boards rule the meta and an entire scam board is somehow bad for the game?
Certainly adjusting your build late game is a good skill to have. That comes in many forms though. It’s not always a scam minion that will be what does it.
I consider scam boards to be the crap like use murlocs to make dumb quillboars stats but on a mech or pirate cleave. I am firmly of the opinion that tribes should work with tribes and not be scam tools.
Rylak should only work with beasts. Murkeye should only make murloc battle cries.
I consider the old khadgar pirates comp to be scam.
At the end of the day, the game went off the rails when they started making these ridiculous broken minions that duplicate things infinitely.
The game mode honestly sucks now and I’ve all but quit playing the mode because they just ruined it by making it too much like standard - highroll or die.
So you don’t like Menagerie builds? Okay that makes more sense now.