Why it is not possible to transfer items between characters?
We need this!
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You donāt need to swap gear between heroes when you can just class change on a 24 hour cooldown, and you keep all your gear / gems / legendary gems / CR / hilts / gold / progress regardless of which class youāre on, rather than having to grind it all out again on another hero class.
Getting gearās trivial compared to re-grinding 8 legendaries to Rank 30ā¦
imo the question should be between accounts and not characters.
Like give us the possibility to exchange setitems with partymembers who were with us when it dropped.
I lost count on how often i got the setitem a partymember wanted while i had no use for it at all (lost count how many shepherd i got after i switched away from necro, or how many banquet after swapping away from barb).
Would be nice to have a, whatever make it 5 min after dungeon has finished window, to just give them to a party member.
can even make it like he has to pay wisps for it.
And yes i would limit to a timeframe after the dungeon and to partymembers who were part of that run, cause else it will just escalate firther in the auction house.
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Theyāll never implement tradeable loot for the simple reason that the same people that operate all the Susans would sell runs where three Susans take you through dungeons and hand you all their set item / legendary drops, for a price in real life money.
I prefer starting a new character, learning how to use it, and growing a new character and i want to play when i can (maybe tomorrow i canāt play so the switch class option isnāt really an option) with the new or the old.
Really got the point!
It really didnāt.
If gear transfer from one account to another was possible, Susans would charge people money to run content with them and hand them their drops or people would create three alt accounts, then team up their main and the three alts, then run content together, with the alts handing all their gear to the main.
This is why gear transfer between accounts will never be implemented in DI.
Let me explain, but my english is not so good so please excuse any error.
The ācorrectā situation it would be that i can transfer items from my pg in my account to another pg in the same account, so the question it should be āwhy i canāt transfer items between accounts?ā
But the real situation is that i canāt share items at all, why?
@Meteorblade:
iām playing only for fun and only when i have some time free, iām not interested in rank or any other sort of recognition, growing up a character is part of the fun
Thatās not that simple though. For relevant loot the alt or susan chars would have to be at least at server para or preferably higher to be able to drop loot thatās comparable in power for a main char. For susan those players should also be somewhat strong and have adequate cr to clear content (which is currently not that high for dungeons but most probably will change with new diff and there are the raids as well). If someone runs alts than the main needs to be strong enough to solo dungeons and raids - again this is currently not an issue (except for pesithal raid) but will/could be after new diff.
Set items are a bit easier at least for now but still need high enough level and cr for a possible upgrade.
Thatās the thing, there are others who do care and even if one legit player suffers from illicit actions, thatās way too many.
I also donāt care about recognition or anything else, I too play for fun. That doesnāt mean Iām willing to turn a blind eye to any illicit activity, unlike clearly you are.
Iāve never wrote anything like that and sharing items between pg in the same account will not change that someone will do that like already is.
People who disagree with you are talking about bad side effects.
Even if you say youāre not going to use bad side effects, there are various kinds of people in the game.
Think more deeply about the negative side effects your opinion may cause.
It has to do with money and fairness.
Like in real life, everything has bad side effects and iām not saying it doesnāt exists; i know that if we can pass items from multiple accounts there are a lot of bad side effects but iām not asking that.
Iām not asking to change your mind and iām not writing about the use of this āfunctionā,
but you (all) suppose that one is guilty before anything else.
Iāve started a new class, i like raising up from scratch but a little help with some items will be appreciated; I have my first pg, a wizard (i like that class since diablo 2), that has a lot of (just to make an example) gems (not legendary), gold, spirit essence that would be nice to pass to the new class.
Yes if i pass from pg1 to pg2 i donāt buy anything from the store and (a.e.) from people that is selling platinum, but the total amount of gold/gemās/any other item that i have doesnāt change and itās less per pg than before.
There is a saying here (hope to correctly translate the sense of it): if you are a thief you think that all are thief
Ah, I understand. In your opinion ātransfering itemsā is not an additive concept. Itās not a concept where we can gather items into one character.
Itās like being overwritten from one character to another. (not addible)
If so, thatās okay.
But the concept is similar to the class change feature in the game.
(excuse me, but are you korean?)
No, iām not korean.
I think that the concept ātransferā isnāt addictive in all the world, i mean in other words āmoveā the item from pg1 to pg2 in the same account.
Something like a shared ātabā in personal stash for all classes of the same account.
Example:
pg1 has 15M gold
pg2 has 1M gold
Log in, select pg1, enter the world: put 5M gold in shared stash
exit the world, select pg2, enter the world: pick up 5M from the shared stash.
pg1 has 10M gold
pg2 has 6M gold
No gold/gems/essence/other added, just shared between pg
The issue this would causeā¦
- Hero 1 is the main
- Hero 2 is an alt
- Hero 3 is an alt
- Hero 4 is an alt
- Hero 5 is an alt
Each hero farms 21 Hidden Lairs to gain 126 rank 1 non-legendary gems. Heroes 2, 3, 4 and 5 put all of their gems into the shared stash. Hero 1 takes them all out and now, instead of getting 126 gems per week, the main gets 630 rank 1 gems per week. Any main not doing this would therefore be at a major disadvantage compared to a main with alts.
This transfer bypasses the Marketplaceās 15% sales tax and would result in a complete collapse of the non-legendary gem market because why would anyone pay platinum to buy these gems from another player via the marketplace when they could just make alts and get them effectively for free?
If F2P players canāt sell their gems for platinum, how do they earn enough to buy legendary gems?
This is why thereās no shared stash.
So you are telling me that you will do that if possible, despite anything you wrote about legit.
And you have enought time to raise 4 heroes, and farm with 4 heroes then pass all the items.
Now any main F2P is in a major disadvantage compared to non F2P; a F2P maybe will have an alt because is fun raise a different class, different way to play (and in my case my main will help the new one).
Again, Iām not asking to change your mind why do you want to change my?
Just for clarifing with an example in real life:
You can buy toxic medicines and the use is in your responsability not on the manufacturer.
Ban the production of weapons so anyone canāt use it to kill.
Everything has the other side, i think something like the shared stash will be a good thing for F2P.
But I know that DI is just a āpay per wināā¦
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What youāre talking about isnāt an āoverwritingā. Itās an āaddā. What I mean by overwrite is
PG1 15M, PG2 1M
through the feature you suggest,
ā PG1 0, PG2 15M
(But what is PG? I think PG means character)
All ownership status of PG2 will be replaced with that of PG1.
I meant this.
If Itās āsharingā you said, thereās a risk that it could become a problem.
Everything has bad side effects, and people who choose bad side effects are bad, but there is also something called regulation.(having someone not do it by force)
In the last update on 5/23, blizzard regulated purchasing the lowest priced items in the market first. There may be complaints about being able not to sell at high price to transfer platinum between accounts(by good people, with good intentions), but the regulation has been established because of the bad side effect.
Think about it carefully.
No, I wouldnāt, but some people absolutely would. Thatās the point. You have to consider the negative impacts that these decisions would have because thereās a percentage of the players that absolutely would take advantage of this.
Youāre making suggestions and Iām pointing out the potential negative impact that implementing those suggestions would have. The whole reason youāre making these suggestions is because you want to change someoneās mind in Blizzard in the hope they do what youāre asking for. Iām telling you why they wonāt, because it would hurt both the game and their business.
A F2P with alts would get more gems than a F2P without alts.
A spender with alts would get more gems than a spender without alts.
The whole reason the Marketplace changes were made, so that you have to buy the least expensive item first, is precisely because players were using alts to transfer plat to their mains, i.e. the main would list something undesirable such as a rank 1 ruby at the maximum price of 400 plat, then their alt would buy it, thus transferring 340 plat from the alt to the main, so that the main can use the plat to buy legendary gems to make them stronger. Blizzard literally did this to kill this practice, i.e. they donāt want players to be able to funnel resources from alts to mains (or vice versa), so why would they introduce an alternative method that completely bypasses the Marketplace?
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Yes, sorry PG itās italian acronym of playing character (PC)
This is change class: you donāt have a second PG, only one.
In ātransfer/move/shareā you have both characters and the total quantity of items doesnāt change, like in my example with gold in the previous post.
Of course, as i alreday wrote and you too in this post.
Yes, never asked to remove rules.
You and others too, you are thinking like this: you have not to leave your home or maybe one bad boy can invest you with the car while youāre going to school/work/market/what else (or why not blocking AI or we wil arrive like in āTerminatorā?)
Live in fear of what might happen itās not what i like, itās better think at rules/limits but as you already wrote bad people are bad people
Maybe you have a lot of time or spend some money.
Iām a F2P, probably i will never have a 10 level standard gem in a reasonable time, iāve installed the game about a year ago and my highest standard gem is 7ā¦ the new character needs 2M to unlock a new slot for familiar, do you know how many time is needed to farm 2M gold with a new character?
On 27th March, the Trophy system was introduced.
- On 27th March, I gained the Trophy for earning 10,000 gold.
- On 27th March, I gained the Trophy for earning 100,00 gold.
- On 1st April, I gained the Trophy for earning 1,000,000 gold.
- On 16th April, I gained the Trophy for earning 5,000,000 gold.
- On 6th May, I gained the Trophy for earning 10,000,000 gold.
So, thatās 10 million gold by day 41 day or, roughly, 243,902 gold per day.