It’s a game for Diablo fans that aren’t morons but don’t want the needless complexity of PoE. Resources matter, combat isn’t totally trivial, but not over punishingly either on death and respecs like D2. You’re a D3 tard who is happy to faceroll through a crowd with no thought to build or dodging and paying attention to cooldowns.
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by your own statement and example, it wouldn’t be “nobody” that thinks that – it would be 9 million (10m - 1m) that think that – and they demostrate it by playing that game.
You can’t say a game with 10m players is worse than one with 1m players, literally 9m would disagree with you by way of their actions.
Having a blast in season 1! I’m seeing a ton of people in game. Don’t listen to cry babies. They like to fantasize that some Blizz employee is dutifully taking notes on their brilliant ideas.
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Game is good and trolls can’t cope my dude. Straight science.
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The narcissism behind this is astonishing. You have no idea what you want, or what is good for any game.
But also, that chart you linked - if it’s accurrate - shows an astounding retention rate for a game like this. It ironically undermines your entire premise. Not that I care, as I’m not even playing Season. I’m progressing Eternal - the strongest thing this game has to offer i.e. a persistent world.
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I’m glad you’re enjoying it – no truly, that is the goal here. But you’re one person and given the recent feedback from the community, your view is not aligned with the sentiment of most. Perhaps you may enjoy the game more if player feedback was adopted more. Thats all im getting at here.
Also to note – you’re not really going to notice a nearly 800,000 drop in players no matter where you are on the map. For all you know, you found a populated spot and concluded that the game is fine. But statistics says otherwise.
Player counts are relevant. Hypothetically, we launch a game and its 600 million players and then the next day we are at 575 million player. Thats understandable, maybe those 25 million players werent able to log in that day. But then a month or two later we notice our player count is 70 million. Obviously, somethings wrong with our game.
What should we do about it? I dont know, maybe listen to our fans/players and see if we cant work it out through feedback provided. Yes its a company that strives on sales of games. So of course like any other corporation all they see is dollar signs. So like other game developers they develope something, hype it up, make a quick buck, and then screw it up. In the end we are the suckers because we dropped an investment and came up empty handed. I on the other hand was swindled out $100 because when I preordered I got the basic and then 2 days before the early access decided to upgrade to get in 2 days earlier. Only the damn thing swindled me out $40. I paid the additional $20.00 to get the early access but the blizzard app didnt understand I had made the payment and wanted me to make another payment. So I dropped another $20 into it. It is what it is…
So what’s your point? Are you trying to convince people that like the game not to like it? Is this what you do in your free time? Rain on other people’s parades?
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Jesus christ, I wish haters would read the damn sites they’re sourcing.
that .io website that claims only a few thousand people are playing literally states the numbers are taken from STEAM. Steam doesnt track battle.net activity. AT BEST, they MIGHT be tracking anyone who launches D4 from steam, but almost no one does that.
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Shareholders dont care about game quality. Shareholders are likewise not relevant for a games quality…
Which, even if we again pretended that was true, has absolutely nothing to do with game quality.
Indeed.
Yes. D4 is not good, but the last patch sent it in the right direction.
Btw, you know what is funny about that obsession with retention rates? ATVI said in the quarterly report a few days ago that D4 had above normal retention rate.
And hopefully it keeps moving in that direction.
People play games they dont like. And even more so, dont play games they like. There is much more to player numbers than both quality and how much players like something. Those two are not necessarily correlated either.
It is not automatically worse, but it certainly can be. Cant really compare those numbers. Way too many other factors at play.
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Just to correct you – a Narcissist persues that which is destructive and not good for themselves. I think you mean to use the word “selfish” which implies that the person is solely interested in what is better for themselves.
In anycase, both terms are not accurate here, because im writing this on behalf of many others shared criticisms. In any point, I will ask you to refrain from ad-hominin and character attacks to make your point. Its not needed, lets be civil and respectful ok?
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Not at all. Those 530 million might simply have gotten whatever they wanted from the game and moved on. That does not translate to a bad game, or there being something wrong with a game.
Those player numbers are always really off.
One of the sites that are often used for player counts used to show Rocket League numbers. At the time Rocket League also showed in-game how many were currently playing.
The two numbers were wildly different.
A random number generator is likely more accurate than those sites.
Lets come back to this on August 4th – and that is why im trying to get ahead of that date.
Edit: And a 800k (nearly 30%) drop off is not something to hail as a success on day 1 of seasons. If that is the new standard of “great”, then that says more about the gaming industry as a whole – not the game.
Well said, but I truly don’t think that site actually shows accurate numbers. Realistically, I don’t think there’s anyway there are over a million people playing D4 still.
Lol! And you believed it?
And that’s where you lose any argument.
Google trends is not a good metric for whether or not a game has players or not. Enough said. End of story.
Again, 99.9999% of players could be leaving tomorrow. Why should I care? It would neither improve or worsen the quality of the game. Same if 100 million new players showed up. That number is just meaningless.
Well, it is illegal for them to lie about it.
But no. I simply mention it for those who want to believe the opposite based on fake numbers.
The problem is, from what I’ve seen, this supp8"majority of players" don’t seem to know WHAT they think most of the time until they’ve been told by their latest reaction farmer sensationalized YouTube video. It changes from one day to the next in an endless groupthink circle jerk of ppl validating each other, misled by thinking that what content their search history feeds themselves represents any kind of broad consensus.
It you tend to watch a lot of sensationalized lickbaity hyperbolic complaining, that’s what you’ll see. If you’re subbed to those creators, you’re even more locked into an insulated silo of confirmation bias.
Dig around a little, you’ll be surprised how many people are actually ok with the patch while very clear it is still not ideal. The real problem that’s been feeding into this has been that a lot of players can’t be bothered to stop relying on things that outperform so drastically they’re obviously broken and not working as intended. I see a LOT of ppl crying for Diablo Lite, easy mode - Disney version.
Yeah, I have been reading on some forums, that people around here who like to use the “casual” term would probably apply to that, and posters there seemed quite fine with the patch. Some of them felt their builds had gotten better, some certainly also felt they were weaker, but that it made combat more fun, and so on.
Look, lets keep an eye on the player stats and see if we can support this with more data – but if I can’t reference the data from the second largest company on earth, then I don’t know what will convince you – if you’re even open to a change of mind that is.
Could the stats be off a bit? sure, but the overall trend does give insight into the reception of this recent patch and overall sentiment of game.
In saying that, I think it would be fair to give it a week or two to evaluate sentiment more – but everything im seeing points to gross dissatisfaction.
True but again such a huge drop of players because they “have gotten whatever they wanted from the game and moved on” is kind of a game flaw in itself. When I download a game I paid x amount for im in it for the long run unless Its just awful then I take that L and uninstall.