Rejoice: Casuals will easily be in T4 in Season 8

Ill be in stardew valley with 100 mods. Total blast. What a game!

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Thanks!

I purchased a Seasonal game. Devs made no bones about that prior to release. I enjoy the Seasonal aspect, and the changes each brings.

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The irony :man_facepalming:

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Or just back in the view they wanted to present a challenge to players, that they hoped people would take up.

If it does play out that way, I wouldn’t say it was a candidate for communication of the year award but (in hindsight), but could understand the desire to try to make it appealing in the face of so much feedback t4 has been a boring pushover.

Sounds consistent with his first video, which appeared was misrepresented when first referenced here.

TL;DR of the 10 word Headline and TL;DW of the video contributing to misinterpreting possibly.

People here being trying to clarify that. Maybe it will help he’s had a go at that too, though the horse has somewhat bolted now.

Is his build strong? As we all know not all builds are created equal. At all. Whatsoever. In the slightest.

awkward laugh followed by a strong feeling of cringe

We do need to see pre season 8 patch notes.

I’ve assumed it’s his low tier A sever build referenced in first video.

Their idea is losing revenue so they are in damage control mode by having a streamer tell everyone “It’s going to be OK”. Streamers are part of the problem and most players don’t bother watching someone else play a game.

This still doesn’t solve the reduced drops with no changes to loot tables or weighting making it way more difficult to gear a character than it needs to be. There is still nothing new or innovative. Nice try, but no.

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You underestimate the poor play of true casuals. The ones that assign skills because they “look cool”. The ones that have no glyphs in their paragon boards because “they forgot”. The ones who are paragon level 150 and still playing on normal mode because Penitent is “too hard”.

Yes, they exist. And yes, there’s a lot of them.

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Lower life forms. Their necks have no beard hair on them. Not like us.

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You already know this is only for Blizz approved builds- it’s been that way since pre-season.

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Yes. I know.

But you said it with such confidence that for a moment you gave me hope that I was wrong.

i saw it he did it with a grandfather. I like obi wan had not heard that name in years. it was a meta build agree he didn’t use he 100 point glyphs in slot but i know of macroi boy he is hardly a casual. How many have had a good Grandfather drop which makes his build very viable? if he did it with a full set 1 GA with low temper rolls i might be more believing.

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meaning the devs’ statement that “T4 is supposed to be aspirational” is only aspirational in words.

in reality, they are just setting up casuals and elites to disgust each other in T4.

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This is so true. Be careful what you believe when they show you things like this.
Their JOB is to get you to play the season.
When they remove stuff…much like a video from before about DOK rogue the season it was introduced…they are likely not removing the actual broken piece of their build.

Either way, most builds will be able to reach torment 4 with glyphs and enough time in game.
And no I am probably not playing s8. So no hidden agenda.

Damn leave some e-girls for the rest of us. :rofl:

Interpretations of casual vary wildly.

I wouldn’t get stuck on this point.

Speak to your experiences, sure.

Pro D4 streamers with Mythics and a P225 build, players from the forum able to reach level 60 in 60h or able to spent up to 50h in the game in a one-week PTR cannot compare their experience with the one from a casual, whatever the definition of the word might be.

A casual for me is someone who is going to spend 50 to 60h in a video game in a 3 months period just for the fun and 50h is already a lot. I play a lot more than that every season but I want to believe I have a very casual approach to the game. I am not concerned by efficiency. I play the game because so far it has been entertaining. What matters to me, whatever the build I choose, is progression. It doesn’t need to be fast.

I spent a significant amount of type levelling in the PTR and, based on my experience, I can say that casuals will not play in T4 next season unless there are changes before the season goes live.

Why are there so many casuals in T4 in S7? Because drop rates are high and there are builds such as Bloodwave necro or Earthquake Barb, extremely powerful without needing much gear. Maybe there will be again similar builds next season. Just getting decent gear will still take time anyway. Maybe one Boss power will make just any build super powerful. If so, casuals will have options to reach T4. If not, they will be lucky to play comfortably in T3.

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So we’re speaking to what casual can and cannot do on 20h/ month or 1hr/weekday for the tl;dr’s among us.

I don’t qualify so I wont express a view on that.

With that said, and if i read enough, we’re also talking about people who may not have reached t4 prior to s8.

I will just talk about my personal. I have been playing almost daily since the game was released.

This season I reached T4 in about 25h with my main, Tier-B Barrage Rogue. It took me around 6h for alts. Playing in T4 in S7 is probably easy for any casual, especially if he chose to play one the meta builds. Last season, with SB, I believe anyone could also play in T4.

In the PTR, after 30h, I was in T2 with a single Ancestral item.