Pay to Win promise has been broken

[STARS-1204]

They said no to P2W gameplay mechanics like the real money auction house from vanilla Diablo III. What happens through business/advertisement decisions is fair game.

[Hedorah-11105]

I’m not saying early access isn’t an advantage, but that’s not the same as P2W. EA is essentially paying for access to the game, which is the same as buying the game. Is buying the game P2W, since you can’t even access the servers if you don’t pay?

Hell, you can even consider buying the game on day 1 for $70 a form of early access, considering a lot of people might wait and try to get the game cheaper during a sale.

[Brophog-1113]

@Hedorah-11105

I’m not saying early access isn’t an advantage, but that’s not the same as P2W.

It is if you give out a trophy, not that Blizzard would make that mistake.

[Corpius2-1666]

Who is being given a trophy? Those 1000 arent. They get their account name engraved on something theyll never physically see.

Hell ill do that right now for you on a spare board in my shed if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy. Its the same thing.

[Irres-1198]

@STARS-1204

The Streamers and content creators had a 10 day start so is that pay to win?

Yeah, guessing you didn’t see the thread with the EA people crying about streamers.

[Las-2373]

@Kroni-11894

Standard edition players will have no ability to compete against those that will have early access.
This is the very definition of Pay2Win

What are they winning?

[Substatic-1973]

I thought P2W was for player power…

Hell this isn’t even a D4 cosmetic. This is a out of game IRL item…

[Balegrim-1119]

Oh, look, another soft, weak-minded, and “victimized” Diablo “fan” crying about some obscure form of “harm” that’s been committed against their fragile little ego.

I swear, for all its glory, Diablo attracts some of the weakest and most ignorant little snowflakes.

You never had a shot at winning this event anyways, because winners compete, and losers cry on forums.

[Sinuous-1440]

@Brophog-1113

It is if you give out a trophy, not that Blizzard would make that mistake.

People who had access to WotlK classic beta could strategize their leveling to get server first for an achievement. While beta access is free, it’s still a lottery system. Races to be first in video games is inherently unfair. It sucks, but if the reward is something as meaningless as a name being etched in tiny print on a statue you’ll never see, then it’s not worth crying about that much.

[Hotaru251-1596]

@Kroni-11894

Standard edition players will have no ability to compete against those that will have early access.

game is seasons.

S1 won’t start for like a month or soemthing.

by then every1 will of played game enough to learn the mechanics/builds.

[B00m3rang-1564]

I am confused. What did I win?

[Brophog-1113]

@Corpius2-1666

They get their account name engraved on something theyll never physically see.

And that thing is called a trophy.

[Corpius2-1666]

Last I checked that was a reward… at best. Being given a trophy geneally means handed something you get to own and display or at least hold for a second, and again they ARENT BEING GIVEN ANYTHING.

Words mean things.

[Esm-2321]

There is no in game benefit involved here.
However it has elements of “fomo”. It basically is an announcement of you have to pay extra for early access or be at a disadvantage for an “official race”? kinda.

It’s not pay2win but is it 100% ethical? naah. But it is what it is.

[Kroni-11894]

@Corpius2-1666

Words mean things.

I agree so I wish you’d show more concern with yours.
The trophy is the reward of your name being engraved in a statue and shown off to the world.

That is the trophy, a tangible object showing your accomplishment.
It doesn’t have to exist in your hands or in your possession, this is pure silliness.
Words mean things, so use them better.

[Corpius2-1666]

@Kroni-11894

The trophy is the reward of your name being engraved in a statue and shown off to the world.

Locked away in a blizz building that maybe a handful who get it will ever actually see.

If thats your idea of shown off to the world, your definition of world is a whole lot smaller than everyone else’s.

[Sinuous-1440]

@Corpius2-1666

Locked away in a blizz building that maybe a handful who get it will ever actually see.

If thats your idea of shown off to the world, your definition of world is a whole lot smaller than everyone else’s.

Agreed. The amount of reaching about how valuable this reward is is silly. I will more often see people’s cosmetics they buy from a cash shop than I will a trophy locked away at Blizzard HQ and a thousand posts buried on a twitter account.

[Kroni-11894]

@Corpius2-1666

@Kroni-11894

The trophy is the reward of your name being engraved in a statue and shown off to the world.

Locked away in a blizz building that maybe a handful who get it will ever actually see.

Which will be a ton more than in the house of a sweaty gamer who no lifed it.
Putting it on a statue where it would be observed by way more people is a far more prestigious thing than being given a trophy where it gets shoved in a closet in a house no one visits.

[Corpius2-1666]

But theyll be able to brag to all the kids at the playground about it, and show them a picture where their account name is so small its not even ledgable in said picture. SO COOL AND VALUABLE!!

“See that smudge there, I swear thats my account name!”

lol.

[Corpius2-1666]

If you think more than 12 people after its placed are going to read them all, and any of those 12 are going to give 2 poos about those names, your delusion extends further than I originally thought. This isnt the Vietnam memorial wall.

Lol.