Metric for gaging how much we're being heard in the forums

Some of the Blizzard associates on their own initiative im assuming, made regular forum accounts posing as players and responding to any and all negative posts to try to do damage control in the form of shilling, white knighting, brown nosing, whichever term you prefer. Because as you’ve already mentioned, the general public is crucifying the game so its easier for them to be able to troll and gaslight when you think they’re just a regular player like everyone else.

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If you have ANY proof linking forum accounts to Blizzard staff feel free to post it. You have speculation and guesses. Assuming anyone who does not hate the game must work there? Really?

Their personal accounts are all regular accounts. Short of test accounts at work, they all play on normal accounts. Always have. They don’t give them anything special short of a WoW sub, or used to any way.

Believe it or not, other players may not agree with you and that does not make them worth dismissing. Just like the criticism is not worth dismissing. Both are valid.

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Why would i have that information? This is all based on my observation of some of the posts that people make. Their responses to questions when relevant are too matter of fact when it comes to procedures and details about the issue. I pointed out one of them in another post which was promptly deleted(surprise surprise) about how the Blizzard stooge knew exactly Blizzard’s procedure and content of emails that they would send the player. I had responses back and forth with him previously where he clarified to me in what executive’s responsibilities were in the company. I didn’t think anything of it at first because it was a while back but slowly i started seeing a pattern and the dots connected at a very specific moment. And given the fact that he shills and gaslights in favor of Blizzard all over these forums it was not hard to figure out.

It must be nice to live in a world where you think these things dont happen and that everyone acts in a straightforward honest manner. You really expect me to believe, after all the scandals that Blizzard has gone through in the past few years that some of their employees wouldnt do some underhanded and shady things like this? This isn’t even something out of this world or crazy. The police have been proven to do this for example when dealing with a mob of protesters, planting agents among them to undermine it. Try to fool someone a bit less naive, its not gonna work on me.

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I would do that job, no problem. Sounds like your average Comcast customer service agent’s day, everyday. Why is Blizzard so special?

No – this isnt true. There used to be this community manager named bashiok who would make excuses for how terribly D3 was designed and regularly post to the forums.

What you’re describing only became true after the D3 fiasco and the community back lash.

Because it was about account actions which we are not allowed to post! I answered you there too. Seriously, Blizzard has not changed procedures in over a decade and the content of a standard email is pretty well known. Esp to anyone who heads to the CS forum for WoW, or reads “I was wrongfully banned” posts/threads.

So you have zero proof other than your opinion that someone is well spoken and somewhat knowledgeable about Blizzard games or standard role for executives. Ok.

Dude, you would think I worked 100 different places if that was your metric. Getting old can sometimes mean you learn a lot and know a ton of stuff. Most of it is never useful and just clutters your brain, but sometimes basics help. Like knowing how corporations work, or what the content of a phishing email might be.

Reminds me of people who thought science or basic biology/herb knowledge was witchcraft because they did not understand, or share that knowledge. :broom: :woman_mage: :herb: :fire:

I’m sure there are plenty of people who would jump on a sword for Blizzard, but Blizzard has asked them not to.

Sorry to hear that Comcast hasn’t/can’t do that.

Right, it seems clear Blizzard has asked them not to. I’m just simply pointing out that they’re not special – where the fact they would get railed here is not an actual valid reason for silence.

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No specific personal information were exposed, it was standard natural conversation developing, given that it was immediately deleted after i brought up the Blizzard employee topic it, it just reinforces my case even more.

Yes, including when someone is trying to bs you and act like everything is on the up and up so they can get the spotlight away from whatever it is that its being zeroed in on. Your analogy of herb/biology is apt in describing your attempts at dismissing the obvious. Critical thinking and deductive reasoning is an ability everyone has, you might wanna put that to use from time to time.

So let me ask you then, do you know for a fact that some Blizzard employees aren’t doing the things i’m claiming they’re doing? Cause as i mentioned before in the previous thread that was suddenly deleted. I believe they are doing this on their own initiative, meaning they could be at home or on their work desk alt tabbing as they’re working. So i’m curious if you know this is not happening.

And there we go. So you admit that they have their own personal forum accounts. And you think the idea that some of them would log on and start making posts without disclosing that they are blizzard employees(because it would instantly invalidate any defense they make) is not in the realm of possibility? Especially seeing how hard some of these people shill for the bad features and mechanics of this game? You’re absolutely delusional if you think anyone would believe your case and speaks to the flimsy attempt at explaining away my point.

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The real point is that nothing would get done. People would just attack and vent without creating a two way conversation. Even if there are a handful people who would properly use the opportunity, all it takes is a few angry people to ruin the opportunity.

It seems much more efficient to just read those attacks from afar, then put it in the patch notes that they’ve fixed the things that people have been complaining about.

Well they would partially alleviate the idea that they don’t give a crap. Might help.

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Shakogate is the perfect example.

You make a small mistake and 140 people get an unmerited reward. You build up a huge negative emotional backlash.

The proper response to this is to be careful with future changes. Messing up a patch CAN cause the game-equivalent of an explosion.

Some of us predicted that this exact thing was going to happen. I wish I could say I feel vindicated as one of those voices, but I get tired of being right about bad things.

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This forum is no worse than any blizzard forum, seems like they attract whiny manchildren much more than other companies.

History of this pattern over many, many, many years of games and patches.

I feel you and you are not alone. We have talked about it quite a bit here.

The metric:
0.00000%

Yeah, like I said, that’s over dramatic. It’s a video game. If you’re trying to play this and aren’t having fun to begin with you’ve wasted your money.

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So out of thin air. Got it.

If that’s how you want to misunderstand what I said, you do you.