Looks like the Devs learned nothing from Diablo 3's failure

I cant believe im seeing people actually think d3 is a good game. I preordered it because i loved d2 and it was the next diablo. I was so disappointed.

And thats the reason it sold that many in the first place, it being a diablo title. Release was a disaster and most people that had a brain quit. The numbers speak for themselves

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I had the same experience with d2. Tons of worthless gear, oh you found 2 weapons? Time to return to town because they take up half your inventory with the other half taken up by tomes and healing pots.

How the hell are you guys seriously acting like d4 inventory is worse than d2. D3 was better than both of these games when it comes to inventory management.

oh no people are getting loot … someone better complain!

there needs to be a slider for diablo 2 players …

Loot drop rate …
-often(Standard)
-not often
-very little
-once a week
-once a month (recommended for Diablo 2 players)

This is a joke right? Did you actually unironically ask that?

Please, do not act like D2 didn’t have tons of garbage loots. Because I remember getting bazillion of garbages that are not relevant to any classes and any builds. It’s always been a part of this franchise. I dislike it personally but, please don’t pretend that D2 didn’t have sea of garbages.

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Guessing you’re not really a competitive player. You probably like grinding loot for absolutely no reason at all except to collect and look pretty in the lobby. You probably didn’t like D3 because you were exposed in your Grifts as being bad, so went back to D2 where all you have to do is talk the big game.

Modern Diablo is geared more toward competitive play. D2, one of my all time favs, is geared toward story time and collecting/socializing. Players don’t really socialize that much any more. D2 players will stay playing D2 because that’s all there is for doing those things. D3-D4 and forward will always move on to the newer thing, because that’s how competition goes. Basically all D3 players are now playing D4. As someone who loves being challenged in D3 with Grifts, and having a reason to keep grinding in order to improve my character, I’m now in D4. That takes nothing away from D3 after RoS expansion. Before…it wasn’t good, after, it was very good.

So, to be clear, you are saying Candy Crush was a failure. If so, do yourself a favor and never go into business for yourself. At least not until you take a few classes in business.

You didn’t seriously just ask a facetious question indirectly implying someone was incorrect while avoiding any attempt at rebuttal with facts, did you?

Don’t you need gold?

To Activision, anything without some kind of subscription model is currently a failure.

There is nothing remotely competitive about D3, by far the easiest game Blizzard has ever created, and one of the easiest games of all time in any genre. You don’t even have to pay attention to your screen when you play. It’s a mixture between a race care simulator and a pinball game throwing cartoonish, flashing lights at you and flashing “High score! High Score!”

Is that why all the D3 carebears constantly cry about how difficult and complicated D4 is? D2 was far more competitive. You could attack anyone at any point and engage in PVP. Real competition is direct competition.

All Diablo players play the latest and greatest, lol. So what? And the D3 players are the ones constantly whining about everything being too complicated or how they’re too soft-hearted for PVP.

D3 was made for children.

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As usual, every “point” you made is wrong. You have zero comprehension skills.

The “competitive” play is against yourself or others, not the game AI. Who in the world would think the AI is what you would compete against? Oh yeh, D2 players that’s all they do.

Given that they completely gutted all the good social features of D3, yeah, I’d say you are actually right for once.

My friends list of 128 bnet players with only 8 people playing D4 says different. They just stopped playing blizz games in general.

Oh, I take it you’ve cleared GR150s and made it onto that leaderboard?

That’s better than a snail simulator with an unappealing, dull, poorly lit bunch of skills flashing “Vulnerable! Vulnerable! Vulnerable! Walk this 2nd box back through empty dungeon to the pedestal.”

Again with the name calling, holy schmokes. Who said this game is difficult and complicated? You seem to have misspelled “boring” and “convoluted”.

What are you talking about lil bro, i like diablo 4 you cornball. Im not going back to d2. But i dont have to, to know d3 was a pile of garbage. Again, theres a reason it sold 30m+ and has less than 5k players. Its because its still trash.

No, I said it wasn’t a good game.

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Greater rifts??? Couldnt be that hard. Top 100 players EVERY season are bots :clown_face::clown_face::clown_face::clown_face:

Oh yeah the bots. So thats even less than the 5k players it says. Most ofem arent real

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That you think what you said is true, demonstrates you probably had at least 9 hits too many.

Obviously they do socialize some, but not like back in the D2 and earlier days. Even in savage type PvP games like Ultima Online there was much more social interaction.

You have yet to explain the player count? Why is it so low? Why was it extremely low before d4 came out?

Then why the thousands of threads from D3 players complaining about how extremely complicated and difficult D4 is? Why all the threads from D3 players saying they just wished things were simpler?

“Carebear” is a common term the rest of the world uses to refer to D3 players, lol. I know you’ve heard it for the past ten years. Stop pretending like it’s some shocking, huge deal. The only reason you even find it offensive is because you’ve been called a carebear by other ARPG gamers for the past decade. The term exists because D3 was entirely too easy, required no skill, required no thought in its builds, and didn’t have PVP.

D4 is already infinitely better than D3. The problem is that D3 was so horrible, being infinitely better still has room for major blunders, like copy/pasting D3’s hilariously bad end game loop of simply mindlessly grinding.

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