You need to get out of mentality that people shouldnāt be able to experiment with builds freely. Anyway, I think that normal people are now clear on respec cost and lack of loadouts hurting game a lot
The cost to respec once is trivial. It only gets high if you are trying to play two or more characters using the same character slot. If you want to play one build until you find the right unique, then swap to a new build, thatās really easy to afford.
If you want to play both builds, though, why not make two characters? If you want to try different characters, just try them! Why should those new characters all start at level 100? It takes a few hours to get access to all the skills and you get the fun of seeing your new build go from janky to powerful.
Free respec gameplay is the worst of instant gratification nonsense. They are right to impose a cost, just like they donāt give you every item you want for free at a vendor and then donāt have all the glyphs unlocked and available at level 21, and they donāt start everyone at full renown with all the lilith statues.
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Iām currently 76 running T30sā¦ gold drop is garage, even when I sell all items instead of recycle/smelt itās still terrible. I will make on average 150k-200k per run and thatās if Iām lucky. So even if we take the higher end of that, 11 million / 200k = 55 runs. Yeahā¦ ok, no.
Having to farm gold to respec in a game that is realistically single player is just another bulletpoint in the list of things that waste time for the sake of wasting time. Why does it cost anything?
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Princess Kabooms has spoken with his 2202 post, all listen.
All these ridiculous people who want to defend it and even increase costs.
You yourselves are the reason why Blizzard craps on you and dumbs down the game further and further.
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It could be like Diablo 2 where you have to farm materials to craft a potion to reset your skills and paragon boards. In Diablo 2 the potion reset stats and skills.
Because:
- It takes a million years to level up
- There are only 10 character slots, total.
The āroll a new character to use a new buildā argument is just clearly wrong.
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I guess I have the unpopular opinion, but I think respects should just be 1 click, and freeā¦ If you can honestly give me a reason why it shouldnāt be this way I will listen.
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Agreed. For the vast majority of players, this game is essentially single-player. Respec costs are a punitive legacy from a 20-year-old game that honestly has no place any more.
If they want people to feel connected to their character, to try things out, to play, to experiment, then remove the costs, and improve the interface.
If they want people to get bored, to be afraid to try new skills, to just get all their builds from third-parties, then they should leave it as it is.
I cannot fathom why the designers thought #2 was the better choice hereā¦
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What sorta blows my mind is how Blizz even thinks these daysā¦
Community: We want easy respecs with 1 click ( maybe free or vastly reduced cost )
Blizzard: We hear you, so we added in this convoluted scroll system that you will get a limited number of at random to respec in 1 clickā¦
Community: That isnāt what we asked for, we just want a simple hot fix to make Respecs less painful.
Blizzard: OK So we will do that, but not for a month tell we add in a new season with even more mechanicsā¦
Community: Fix your game please.
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What double-blows my mind is that they have these features in all of their other games.
WoW has beautiful skill trees with meaningful choice. It has a āeditā mode, where you make changes before you commit them. It lets you save builds. It lets you drag skills directly from the tree into your action bar (notably D4 doesnāt let you do this, it has a separate interface for that).
D3 saves builds, lets you swap between them, and takes a fraction of the number of clicks to build a new one.
As a game developer not using previous functionality, especially when it is QoL functionally, in your new game is essentially unacceptable.
How many people have grown up hearing over and over
ālearn from your accomplishments and mistakesāā¦
How is it that a man who gets a 6 figure income to head up Diablo 4ā¦ doesnāt think it is a good idea to implement previous features that clearly were good ideasā¦
Like what level of pretentious do you need to be in order to ignore all previous paths laid before you that have a literal GOOD IDEA sign on themā¦
If this was a small indie dev team I could accept that they may now have the time to add all the systems we would wantā¦ But this is Blizzā¦ and we donāt have a LFG Finder in a 2023 āMMOā
11 million gold can literally be farmed in a couple of hours.
Farming for a couple of hours to respec is extremely unfun, and more of a job than a fun game.
Sounds like Team Fortress or Overwatch would be more up your alley.
Or D3, a the previous game in the exact same series made by the exact same company.
Just rest assured: respec costs, farming for gold for respecs, these are not popular features. D2 was popular in spite of these, because it was great in other ways, and it was boundary setting, not because you couldnāt respec. I played D2 when I was in high school and had no life. Now, itās been 20 years, and farming for hours just to respec hasnāt been fun in over a decade.
Exactly. It comes to the point it is frustrating to find legendaries for different builds because the cost of trying them out is ridiculous at a high lvl, and then you have to switch back again if you end up not liking the new build. Itās a hard pass for me, thank you very much.
It saddens me though that we canāt try out stuff because one needs to spend X amount of time farming Y amount of gold to respec and try a new unique aspect that hopefully will be good enough or work at all. By far one of the worst things in d4 imo.
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i spam lvl 36-45 NM dungeons on my lvl 93 and usually walk out with 11 items which is around 140, 000 gold a run at most. even regular dungeons donāt give that much: itās super rare to get a full inventory in my experienceā¦
so all these people saying they get 5 or more mill an hour are just making crap up.
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Got 13 millions atm and not even trying