well he also said that chantodo should be nerfed further, because it will still be on top after nerf - but on the opposite his opinion on class balance is just stupid and he didn’t care about the powerdifferences between classes -.-
we should fix the difference between Barb, Monk etc to Wiz and for god’s sake if you promise barb chances (3 seasons ago) make some actual changes not alter items and leave builds still underperforming
Barbs finally get buffs.
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With regards to Fluffy, I think the dude’s a great advocate for his class–Necro. When it comes to Barb, he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, and unfortunately, he has failed to take constructive criticism about it.
Streamers and YouTubers have far too much pull with Blizzard. With a few exceptions (Rax, for example), they rarely play the game at a high level, and their content is designed to appeal to the broadest possible player base in the simplest, most easily digestible way. It’s more about the “like, share, and subscribe,” and less about knowing anything in depth.
Here’s hoping the devs realize that losing a 200% multiplier on an item will nerf the build into the ground.
My understanding is that excluding the rend damage modifier on lamentation, all the other buffs in the initial PTR 2.6.7 remain, including ambo’s pride that now automatically applies rend and the total damage of rend is dealt over 1 second…
You’ve played a lot of zbarb… so you know how to WW very well… You’re also 7k paragon bro! Of course you can do 133… lol.
That’s like me saying the build is op because it can do 110 at 1500 paragon. That doesn’t shock anyone.
Current NA Non-Season LB:
Wiz-143-8.8kP-14:11min
WD-142-7kP-14:27min
Nec-138-7.1kP-13:42min
DH-138-9.8kP-12:55min
Cru-137-8kP-14:19min
WD has a 142 clear at 7k paragon. Nec is at 138 at 7k. Don’t come at me that barb should be nerfed because you can do a 133 at 7k.
I’ve been saying the max is 141. That 140 clear he had a top tier festering floor. It wasn’t decent it was amazing. Festering, with zombies and grotesque for low damage, conduit and power pylon. You think conduit and power are bad pylons??? In that one floor he was able to do 95% of the entire GR. He also died during that rift against enemies that do low damage. The rest of the time his life was fluctuating a lot. That goes to show that he doesn’t have enough toughness for higher gr’s. Even if he had a max stat flavor like his hellfire, he’d still lose the power from that 5th passive. It might’ve saved 10 or 20 seconds if he had fot on that conduit pylon, but nothing drastic. That has more to say about the power of FOT and not the power of barb.
There isn’t any room on the build to turn into toughness. It can’t survive in a 142 or higher by any means.
I’m not trying to make it chantodo level. I never said that. I was comparing how strong chantodo is and that barb is not even close to that level. The chant nerf is like 2-3 gr’s. It’s nothing.
They nerfed barb from 140/141 to 133/134 and nerfed chant from like 145/146 to 142/143. Wow…
Regardless, someone with 10.5k is not an outlier. By no means should they try to “balance” barb around what someone his paragon can clear. Only 1% of the players are even clearing over 125.
I do have an idea. After looking at all the pushes and pushing the build myself, I definitely have an idea of what it can do.
Also, potato wasn’t the only high paragon to push. The 2nd place clear was 138 at over 9k paragon. Took him over 14 minutes too. If the builds potential is so high, all of these gr’s would’ve been done faster, but they weren’t. Why not you ask? Because the potential isn’t as high as people are speculating.
I watched the whole 140 clear. I didn’t see much of a delay tbh. I saw him keep pressing esc for like 30 seconds of the rift to mitigate lag I guess. I wasn’t really seeing any lag. Not more than what I get.
This is the first time I’ve seen your name pop up about barbs. I’ve been here discussing it and looking at the track record of barbs for a very long time.
are you really serious???
what does that matter? all the rend buffs are still not enough if you take the 200% on lamentation away and render the build useless for pushing
the other buffs on hota and seismic slam are a step in the right direction but also not enough…
…the power difference between barb and other classes doesn’t change -.-
Nothing should have been nerfed. But Blizzard doesn’t care what we thing about this. All in the name of balance, and there lies the problem. There is not balance in this game, and its a stupid idea to begin with when no one is setting goals based on Paragon-GR. At what P-lvl should the average player with no primals be able to clear 110, 120, 130, 140? Please elaborate and explain the reasoning behind your arbitrary opinion, or just accept the fact that you’re a troll and all you want is your favorite builds to be on top - or that you want the average play held back so they can’t get on the LB’s. Admit it, you’re just being childish, and Blizz needs to stop listening to nerf trolls.
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Exactly like i predicted. Just empty words. Always the same " We heard the war cry of our dedicated barb community, next season barbs will shine, bla bla bla. You guys lost your credibility.