Exactly!!
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I tried a few 120, good gear, 20k strength with no luck.
Furthermore i was only able to survive with the band of might build.
The Diablo 3 Devs or âclassic teamâ needs to assign different people to solely focus on one character class. It would help if they play their own game so they come from an experienced point of view. To really focus and understand why the player base wants something. That may work better in terms of communicating what we want and actually having it implemented into the game. At least then theyâre less likely to nerf something just because, as Wolverine puts it, the trolls start to complain.
The D3 community manager does an excellent job relying the information but itâs the wrong information being passed. Thatâs the only frustrating part. How can the game improve for the Barbarian fan base? Hopefully Diablo 4 isnât like this. It just seems like DIablo 3 got a âsinking shipâ approval from the top a long time ago (axing an expansion pack was sad) and ever since then theyâve been trying to salvage this once promising game thatâs been a hectic roller coaster ride from the beginning. We never had time to enjoy what we wanted.
Iâd have been happy playing Diablo 3 for another few years (tiding me over until Diablo 4), especially if the female whirlwind Barb Sonya became a top contender like she was on the PTR. We had something truly exciting going for us again. Full of hope and fun times ahead. And itâs taken away from us just like that! All because somebody at the top made one decision based on tainted feedback. That person may as well steal my pizza that Iâm eating for lunch right now. It feels just like that.
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if that belt is going live nerfed, iâm out. i endured much pain over the years with barb but thatâs itâŚww/rend ruined again because of trolls and 1 person with 10k+
last time ww got nerfed and was underperforming until now was also just 1 personâs fault - but a 7gr nerf wtf when we finally had some toys to play with this season but NOâŚ
even with ptr changes:
- Hota is still not there
- S.Slam also needs a further buff
- WW/rend underperforming again
- R6 /Vilecharge okish but with wallcharging
- all other builds not competative
gz for really p*ssing of a long time diablo fan -.-
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Patch notes from ptr have not changed. Where is the nerf info coming from?
From a photo shared by Lord Fluffy on Twitter from the playable 2.6.7 demo at Blizzcon. Source here:
Mayne Im selfish, but
You still think of you too good, if you use âmaybeâ
Chantodo is 3-5 tiers nerf. Same 10k paragon has done 146 with it so its still a 140+ bd. Rend is now 133-136 at best with 10k + paragon. Rend 120 on ptr is not as easy as you think it is. At least my 8k rend barb did not find it as easy as pre nerf chantodo.
4 gr nerf is acceptable but not 7 tiers. I agree with you that rend should not shadow over hota/ss. However even if a bd is equally powerful, players will blindly copy rank 1 spec, thats human nature.
If you still need to look at LB for bd, you still noob.
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Chantodo nerf is 2-3 max. Rend is now 134 max. a 0 gr nerf was acceptable. They really nailed the numbers before. It took 10k paragon to get 140. Not one other person could replicate that. 9k paragon got a 138.
10k para 140 clear meant that most of us non bots had a chance at 130-135. Now you need 10k para just for 133. Which means the build maxes out for us around 125 which is absurd.
Why grind your butt off just to get 125gr clear when other classes can do that in half the paragon it would take barb.
Personally, iâm about 45 seconds off from a 120 clear on my sader at 1725 paragon. The thought of needing another 1k paragon for ww/rend to compete is mind boggling.
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Season 19, season of âcould have been great, now just mehâ. Thanks for nothing Bliz.
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Barb player clearing 140 GR with over 10500 paragon is OP
but Wizards clearing 140-146 GRs with less paragon for two seasons aren't...
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@Gasnick
Do you honestly think that the developers made their decision based on a single GR clear?
Yes or no.
I believe that the developers looked more comprehensively (easy to do, since you claim it was a single GR clear that informed their decision) and objectively made a determination based on their game analytics and their experience.
No gif needed.
even if they donât nerf it because of the 10k+ guy, it still doesnât excuse the big overnerf, now even with that much plvl the build is just mediocre - with normal paragon the build is dead for leaderboards
if they listened to the streamers, those need to entertain and often have a quick mouth without thinking about the consequences
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Again, a 140 on the ptr means at least a 143 on live. Thatâs how the ptr has always worked.
The build was too powerful, and people who think overwise âbecause a 10k paragon outlier doesnât mean anythingâ. Guys. I cleared 133 on the ptr even though I had never played Whirlwind before. Thatâs higher than what I have ever cleared with any other character despite being top 20 with both monk and crusader, and having pushed way more with both of those classes. Stop pretending the build wasnât too powerful, it was at least as powerful as current chantodo, that finally got nerfed. Iâm glad they didnât make the same mistake of letting a way too OP build go live.
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look a Barb Troll ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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So itâs ok for Wizards to clear 140-144 GRs over two seasons, but barbs canât even clear a 140 GR in one and if you think barbs could clear a 143 or 144 GRs than you have no idea what youâre talking aboutâŚ
Yet another made out of thin air argumentâŚ
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âBecause this happened in the pastâ is not a valid argument that something will happen in the future. Itâs not even close to valid.
I watched the 140 clear. I studied the build. I pushed with the build. WW is not a hard build to understand, so the argument that you ânever played ww beforeâ is void.
You give little information to your 133 claim. Was it on S19 ptr? How much paragon do you have? How many augments did you have? If youâve never played WW before, have you played barb before? Did you already have the gear or did you farm for primals on the ptr?
This is where people create confusion and overall manipulate others. You state a random claim that you cleared 133 with zero information.
It wasnât even close to current chantodo. Look at the 144 clear with Chant. It was done with less paragon and in 12.5 minutes. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
The 140 was done on top tier, best of the best maps, he still died, and it took him over 14 minutes. Get your facts straight.
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It literally happened EVERY TIME. Not once, EVERY TIME.
It was on NS PTR, obviously. ~7k paragon. Played zbarb only. Got the gear from that over the years.
Zero information ? I gave you the information that with no prior experience, I cleared higher than I have ever cleared. No matter what, it proves that itâs stronger than everything else Iâve played, and Iâve been top monk and crusader for a very long time.
You have no idea how the build would perform on live, why are you assuming it would be 140 max, even though the guy spent like 2 hours pushing the build, with a 200ms delay because ptr is on NA. Sure, he got a decent rift, but not gg by any means. Bad pylons, he died etc.
Patator also cleared 145 with chantodo, and he isnât even wizard main. And Chantodo got nerfed because it was too powerful so stop comparing to it like it should be on chantodo level.
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chantodo only got nerfed to around 142 so thats why the barb down to 133 or 135 is too much of a nerf. Also my main problem with nerfing barb is now rats is king again for group speeds. I would rather have rend equal to rats and if itâs too strong in solo you can buff other solo specs.
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