And why should they? Why invent something else if everything works fine? In the worst case, you can just use the cold meteor rain skill and it will solve most your problems - in less significant cases you can use spamming.
Pressing the same button twice to get the same effect doesn’t religion allow you?
What difference does it make if disabling channeling and enabling it again has the same effect?
Only instead of two or three skill keys you press one and even all channeling bonuses are retained.
They just don’t know how to use it properly. All because of a bug! )))
I repeat, with the available input data - what to beat an owl on a stump, what stump to beat on an owl - the result is almost the same.
It doesn’t matter at the expense of the location of the Storm Armor - I still don’t use the left mouse button to attack. It’s just a matter of convenience. I hope you didn’t give up on it at all.
Two meteors instead of three and need press one more skill key? Mmm…questionable decision in my opinion. You could not do nonsense and have a choice between channeling the skill and spamming it, that is, either use two constantly falling meteors if laziness or three otherwise.
The funniest thing is that the 6 pcs bonus doesn’t count skill channeling as a once hit damage. Using it with a familiar allows you to hold 4 stacks while the channeling is on, if you dealt the other two types of damage before of course. Think about this paradox - two bonuses of the same set handle channeling in different ways and guess which one is correct…)))
I’m not sure about disintegration, because in terms of strength damage types there are first fire, then ice, lightning and arcane damage. That is, you not only exclude fire from the automatic chain, but also replace it with the weakest element. Why so? Or you use another parts of Firebird set with Tal Rasha?
It’s funny to hear this from a person who looks into a book and sees a fig. I am surprised at people like you - there the check takes only a couple of minutes at most, but you continue to persist. You are always veterans when you are not talking about the issue, but once again sit in a puddle when it comes down to it. Like I said before - you can never admit you’re wrong.
Now I understand where your 14 thousand posts came from - you just flooded them.
About veterans. On this forum, you’ll find find new players and veteran (Old) players.
When old players can help new players, they try to explain why it’s not a bug or how to do this or that…
About the Meteorblade’s case. Don’t judge a player by his number of answers, but by the relevance of the answers.
Some veterans have xxxx posts but to say nothing.
Some veterans have xxxx posts to try to help.
To finish, I really hope that you won’t need help in the future on this forum.
Again, in this entire thread, there’s just one person that doesn’t understand how this set works. Everyone else gets it just fine and has been trying to explain it to you. Heck, did you bother to look at the links I gave earlier in the thread? I actually played a Tal Rasha wizard this season!
No. I doubt it very much. In a simple and understandable video you managed to see something completely different from what was shown there and then you started accusing me of misunderstanding.
It seems to you. This does not prevent me from using all the bonuses of the set and enjoying it. Contrary to your opinion and desire.
Yep, talking about other things.
What about the meaning? Well, I looked and what? This is a little about something else - if your advice does not help solve the problem, then it is not useful.
This is not enough to understand everything - you certainly know something and even use it, but outside of this you begin to swim liquidly.
It was clear from the beginning, but there is a difference between accepting existing features of a mechanics and considering it as a bug. We initially talked about different things, but it never came to you definitively. Figuratively speaking, I tell you that the door hangs crookedly, and you tell me that it will do anyway - thanks you helped me a lot with accepting this. )
So far I have not heard this, since all that I have been told is that it works like this, accept it. There was not a single logically sound word why it should be so - this is about a bug.
He did not try to help, all he did was give advice from the category - well, if that doesn’t work, then use other skills. Does this look like a help? Why should I use other skills if to get the same result I just need to use the same skill again, that is, in other words, spammed it? By the way, no one explained to me why spamming the skill key should work, but holding does not - instead, I heard a very strange theory about one-shot damage for the entire duration of channeling the skill, which is perfectly refuted by another bonus of the same set. Short, just baby talk.
I understand, it would be helpful if someone said that while channeling the Ray of Frost skill, I can once press the key of the Disintegration skill and this will solve the problem by resetting the counter and not interrupting the channeling. But this was not, instead it was - play the skills like a piano, that’s the only way it works.
That’s why I have a strong feeling that these veterans themselves do not understand what they are talking about, having tried only one option and discarding all the others. And when I tell them that I can do it like this and everything works, they answer me - you don’t understand how the set bonus works. Phew phew phew.
I think so too, because I’m already sick of knocking my head on a closed door. Yes, I do not have much experience of sitting in a forum to correctly express what I wanted to say, but now it does not matter anymore.
At first I had a desire to report a few problems and ambiguities in the mechanics of the game, but now it is completely gone. Now, even if some of this was good for me, no one can say that I didn’t try to say it. So let it be also because it already is. )))
Nothing will change until everyone sits like a @Meteorblade and sucks their paw, as the developers don’t see the point in fixing something for the sake of such a small number of people - they just follow the path of least resistance. No one is interested - oh well, spaghetti monster with 'em.
(2) Set:
Damaging enemies with Arcane, Cold, Fire or Lightning will grant immunity to that element and cause a Meteor of the same damage type to fall from the sky. This only occurs if the Wizard has Meteor on their action bar, and the same meteor cannot happen twice in a row.
The wording of the set clearly spells out that you cannot get the same meteor twice in a row which means you have to alternate between attacks of different elements if you want to continually get meteors of the matching element to fall as a result. Thus, if you just keep channelling an attack of a single element, you will not get more than one meteor from that attack. This is not a bug, this is how the set is intended to work.
You’re complaining about how you’d like the set to work.
We’re playing the set how it actually works.
Oh, Captain’s Obviousness, what would we do without you?!
That’s right, the only same type of damage dealt twice should not work again and it doesn’t matter if it’s done by one skill or several skills in a row, no matter what the time interval between these actions is. Also it doesn’t matter if you used the beam skill twice or channeling it - there are no questions and cannot be.
You forgot only one point - the keyword here is the only same type of damage, without another type. How you like to talk - is how it actually works.
And of course, this particular moment is not bug and cannot be - so I didn’t call it a bug, but you never noticed.
The bug starts further, consists in small nuances of interaction with other skills - support skills. When you turn on at least one support skill, using your main skill starts dealing more than just one type of damage and as long as you do not channeling this skill, everything is fine - both skills in turn deal each type of damage and proc meteors one after another. So far so good with this too.
But as soon as you turn on the channeling of the skill, the bug immediately manifests itself in all its glory - after the first time, this skill stops proc meteors after the support skill deals its other type of damage, and it doesn’t matter whether you dealt damage with the this skill at that time or not - for him, the counter is not reset from another type of damage. I repeat - spamming same skill twice in a row works as expected, but not it channeling.
The fact that two support skills working together do not have this problem only demonstrates how specific this bug is.
It finally dawned on you what I’m talking about or you need to explain how for an autist?
However you are a very fat joker troll. I’m just in awe of how alternatively reasonable you are - twisted in the clouds, you listen to the interlocutor with half an ear and understand him in general as your left heel wants.
Again, I have said more than once that I also have to playing the set how it actually works, since there is no other option, but I can’t say that it gives me pleasure because of a bug.
And you again imagined something incomprehensible to yourself, attributing to me a misunderstanding of the work of set bonuses. What can I say to that? Only one thing - you are hopeless, you do not want to listen to your interlocutor and do not even want to try to understand what he says, but at the same time you are trying to crush with your exaggerated authority from the time spent in the game, give advice that is completely meaningless in its isolation from the issue while claiming that he himself is to blame for everything.
Сongratulations, you hurried again and shot past - in short, you screwed up as a person who claims to have a competent opinion on this issue. I am grateful and praise you for your persistent attempts to help me, but I scold you for the mediocre implementation of these attempts. In truth, you only make people laugh if recklessly hurry.
I can only hope that your incompetence has manifested itself only here, and is not a common occurrence for you - it will be very sad if you help everyone the same way.
Once again: When you channel, it is considered one single attack. When you spam a skill, it is multiple separate attacks. That’s a huge difference.
Let’s assume A is procced meteor by channeled skill and B, C and D are meteors from other skills. You expect the following sequence:
A → B → A → C → A → D → A…
This will actually happen:
A → B → C → D → B → C…
Why? Because channeling a skill is considered a single attack!!! You need to properly rotate between skills!
Also insulting those who try to explain how things work doesn’t help.
If you paid attention, to me or any of the other thread contributors, you’d play this set properly and get lots and lots of Meteor procs.
If you press and hold a channelling skill, that is considered one, single attack, regardless of whether you channel that attack for 0.1 seconds, 10 seconds, an hour, or a week. As a result, that entire channelling will cause one, single meteor to proc.
This is not a bug. This is how the set describes itself working, and it’s how it actually works, i.e. you need to alternate between attacks of different elements so that each time you cause a new elemental attack you get an associated meteor of that type to land.
Clearly not, or you’d be playing it how it actually works, and be causing huge amounts of meteors. Instead, you’re still here channelling a single element’s attack for an hour and wondering why you only got one meteor.
I listened to you. You’re playing it wrong and, when advised on how to play it right, you’ve decided to ignore everyone else’s advice, continue playing it wrong, and telling everyone it’s us that doesn’t understand.
I listened to what you said.
I understood what you said.
What you said is wrong, and you refuse to listen to why.
To be fair, even if he did all that, and it was a bug, it would be ignored for 10 years, like teleport being stuck on a rock. So, you know, there’s that.
In the end it’s completely irrelevant how many meteors channeling skills proc through Tal Rasha 2p bonus. If you’re playing a meteor build, you’re not supposed to rely on those meteors. Your main damage dealer is manually cast meteors, not the ones procced by TR 2p bonus. While the latter ones do contribute, their portion of the total DPS is tiny. Also the Meteor Shower from Mempo of Twilight is only applied to manually cast meteors.
Yes, this is how it works now, but nowhere does it say that it should be so - it only says that same damage type dealt twice in a row are ignored.
You can see for yourself that this is a bug, I already described the method - the turned channeling that does not cause damage is not an attack, but nevertheless, after changing the type of damage and returning the beam, it does not work. You can argue all you want, but in fact this is a bug.
And yes, I don’t need to rotate anything - spamming solves everything. And this only confirms that this is a bug.
And I didn’t try to insult him, I just expressed bewilderment at the fact that this man, with persistence worthy of a better use, over and over again hears something of his own and ascribes to me what I did not say.
I repeat, so that there is no misunderstanding - I know how it works now and you do not need to explain it to me. I raised the issue of a bug and you tried to prove to me that this is not so, but instead for some reason you tell how everything works now - forgetting that one does not interfere with the other. That is, you could not prove anything, and I remained with my opinion.
Didn’t I get them? I got all this, and without the more complex schemes that you suggested. For some reason, it seems to me again that you missed everything that I told you about.
Yes, this is how it works now, but no one except you said that it should be so. Read carefully what I told you.
And here you are lying - I already spoke about the alternation of elemental attacks and clearly proved that this does not correspond to the description of the set’s operation - not a word is said there that you need to start a new attack by pressing the skill key again.
As long as support skills provide the damage type change on their own, all your words are empty, especially when channeling the skill at that moment does not damage anyone.
Are you playing the blind and the deaf again? Watch the video at the beginning of the thread again.
You listened and are not going to do it. Even a video is not enough for you to realize what nonsense you are talking about.
I would listen to you if you weren’t so stubborn in your short-sightedness, but I’m afraid that in old age I won’t wait for this.
Gold words. Nothing will change until no one wants to talk about it.
Well, why not, since it gives an easy result in most cases? You somehow forgot that I use autocast whirlwinds to pull mobs under meteors, that in most cases just stand and do nothing except channeling the skill, also keeping them in the focus of the meteors attack. For all mobs excep special mobs and bosses - and this, for a moment, is the lion’s share of all the mobs that I encounter while passing through the portal. I already told you why this one-button build is so attractive?
Well, how can I tell you - if I do not have enough skill channeling, then I just spam the skill and most often this is enough. And I turn on manual meteors on special occasions, like large crowds of mobs, bosses from altars, bosses that do not fall under the effects of control and portal guardians.
So yes, but their use does not look very good and is not always convenient due to the lack of control effects in the skill. So i guess there is a time and a place for everything.
Of course, they are also applied so quickly that the place where they fall is almost instantly covered with ice peaks and quickly turns white, which sometimes makes it quite problematic to see something there.
I would tell you in response that you also do not want to understand what I am telling you, so stop wasting your words senselessly since you have nothing more to say on the merits.
Well, you obviously came here to show off in your smug style. So I hope that in the next topic you will come with your brain with you so that it will be useful, and not just nonsense chatter.
Amusingly. Have you finally seen yourself in the mirror?
You already left, why did you come back? Do not cry, and you will find your own audience that will appreciate you, but not there. )))
Blablabla - are you serious? Maybe you and @Meteorblade are twin brothers - both of you are amazing oakhead…
In any case, try to correlate what is written in the description of the bonus set with its real work.
