the only thing blizz will archiv with a nerf will be less players playing next season because many barbs will be pissed after getting nothing for so long to get a nerfed set because of trolls and 1 10k+p player - we literally had that with ww some time ago when blizz decided to nerf skullgrasp because of 1 player and end up with underperforming ww set for a couple of seasons
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The end game in d2 was pvp, not Baal runs. And d2 had TONS of nerfs added to it over the yearsā¦ Hence duped 1.07 items and the like being in such high demand. If your end game of d2 was Baal runs then you missed out on a ton of fun doing pvp.
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132 GR done (season PTR) with 1300 paragon and ~125lvl gems. Do you think it is normal?
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The Seasonal killstreak buffs are ridiculously strong. Do not look to Seasonal PTR results as indicative of a buildās actual power potential.
Yāall need to stop crying for nerfs. When Barbs went to work to get buffs, we never asked for anyone else to get nerfed, not even the obviously broken Wizard.
Work for your class community, not against others.
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Then why no other class can do 132 with all that āridiculously strongā seasonal buffs? I play all classes m8. And the only thing I āwork forā is Diablo 3 . Barb is obviously op atm. I donāt say it should not get any buffs just not that much.
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Striaght up boohoohoo to the nerf ranters. Go complain somewhere else please.
Work for your class community, not against others.
Thank you, Free. Iāve been trying to say this, but there is a few people who just refuse to let your advice soak in. Its a shame really. I donāt want anymore builds nerfed. I want all of them made more powerful, and given more toughness.
Personally, I think WW needs more power and toughness, because outside of the incoming season theme, I donāt think it will do nearly as well. Maybe Iām wrong. Either way, WW is not my favorite Barb build, but I might be a little funner to goof around with now.
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Just quoting for posterityās sake because I like your 4th sentence.
Count me as agreeing to your statement.
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Itās ptrā¦ If they dial back some of the changes its not a Nerf. They never made it to live. A casual should not be able to spin to win a solo gr 125 with 1k paragon. That goes for barbs and wizards and any other class. If they release the barb now as is it will just get nerfed after a season or two and people will cry way more.
Barbs deserve a buff. Everybody agrees on this. Wizards needed a nerf. Most people agreed on this.
Notice how very few necros are crying about their build being nerfed even though itāll drop them like 8 grs? Itās because everybody recognized it was a flawed build. Vrytodos was a flawed build, but it was so casual and user friendly nobody wanted to admit it. The new barb additions are OP. but because the barb community has been asking for buffs for so long the barb community is getting completely butthurt at the mere concept that the PTR is revealing the barb received too much of a buff. People are literally clearing 130s or higher in the ptr with no augs and moderately low paragon. Name another class that can do that?
Also, I think everybody wants the barb to come out with buffs come season 19, but there is such thing as too much.
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Yes man, just kids wanna have a toy (barbie) that 's all 
killing streaks are really powerfull, and thats good! but on ptr it paints a wrong picture because barb is the only class that has a reason to push at all, the 2 news sets needs buffs and no other class other than those had changesā¦
Dude this forum is literally the place where weāre supposed to address our concerns with the PTR results. Like, the designated spot to complain about stuff is right here. Itās in the forum name ā PTR feedback.
Man, WW donāt need perfect timingā¦ your post is not correct.
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Do as you like. But Iām tired of people calling for nerfs. Its old, its childish, and it sets this game and the average player back. Thatās my point, and I am not backing down. Do as you will.
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Mutayshun , whats weird to me is you and Anelyn are on this thead and the Vyr/Chants thread calling for nerfs, and defending more nerfs. Its ridiculous. If you donāt like the builds that are high powered, and you want your favorite builds to be more powerful, CALL FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. A lot of us will gladly support your cause. Can you please just stop calling for nerfs. Thank you.
Nerfing is required to keep the balance in any game. Itās been that for decades. You need to live with that. That is why Vyrchantodo has been nerfed. They canāt realistically buff all other classes in one week.
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Donāt tell me what to do or what to live with, Iām not yourās to order around. And lastly, you arenāt in charge of this game. Maybe you need to accept that A LOT of people donāt like Mutayshuns, yours and Aneluns POV.
I think youāre plain wrong.
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Got butthurt already kid? Sleep it over.
Think what you want. Iām 40 years old. Iāll take ākidā as a compliment.
If you donāt like my POV, donāt respond to me. Its that easy.
Have a blessed day.
Actually it would be very-very hard to open a better rift. The best wood map, full of with the best trash and a lightening pylon at end of the mapā¦ it was a dream rift! With very much pushing maybe 1-2-3 GR level plus reachable but I think not more. He started to struggle to survive, so the toughness limitate the reachable GR level too.
I might be wrong or anyone else on this forum. I still have the right to express my opinion. If I say barb is currently op at PTR that is what really think about it. Blizzard will decide how to handle all this in the end