I consider myself analytical. I disagree with your assessment of predicted barb power. I also disagree with the idea that if there is an overpowered class, than you should buff all the other classes to that level. In a case like, this a nerf is warranted. If the Developers would have changed outlier builds before they went live, many would be happier.
Also, a subset of barb posters have an unfavorable opinion of my posts; however, I call a spade a spade. I do not play favorites. I defend posters against personal attacks even if I think many of their posts are wrong. I tend to turn the other cheek when attacked and do not resort to name calling.
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Because they will not revert wizard nerf and now barb will be clear outlier. And after it goes live everyone will ask for barb nerfs, exactly same way as it was with chantodo wizard. This way we never reach any balance between classes.
So I guess youâre fine doing max 120-135GR and NEVER being able to solo GR150 at all?
Whatâs the point of this game if you canât clear the highiest GR after YEARS of playing.
Itâs like nerfing all classes in D2 LoD to not being able to even kill any wave spawned by Baal in the throne room so no one can even get to kill Baal at all in D2 LoD.
Same logicâŚ
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Buffing other classes in my opinion is better but it is much harder for devs and requires more work. So they went easier and faster route and nerfed wizard. Ok so be it. But why the hell they buffed barb even more than chantodo wizard prenerf? They denied any logic with this buff. They simply should have buffed ww rend to the level of nerfed chantodo wizard, so this two classes would be quite balanced.
I never asked for chantodo nerf nor Vyrâs or in fact ANY build. Itâs because of these dumb nerfs we have situations like these, but some people just donât get it and prefer to take the lazy way out and nerf everything that stands outâŚ
There will NEVER be any balance in this game if you keep nerfing or destroying the strongest builds to the ground, just cause theyâre too close to GR150 or too far ahead of others.
Common sense would be to bring other classes to at least 5GR range of the strongest build, but yeah better nerf the strongest one and force all players to play in max 120-140GR range. Any class that exceeds GR140 must be nerfed, because itâs OP. What a loud of 
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You can see the clear on youtube. The first map was the ultimate super map with the best prog trash and conduit. The second map was not a nice one but had to do very little progressin there. I believe there is not much more in WW like this. Maybe 1-2-3 plus GR level. I think it is not stronger than chantondo wiz was before nerf. And we donât know what the nerfed chantodo can reach because players play with barb and the other new sets. BTW I donât agree to nerf chantodo. And would be nice to have this WW build live.
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I just hope Blizzard is listening to our well known and decorated barbarians instead of the trolls who are afraid of losing their lolly.
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your right for the most part. I think the nerf to todoâs is warrented. but I also think there needs to be some compesation for it.
one thing to also note is that Vyrâs wizard needs a second cycle before there damage really ramps up. where WW can start damage out the gate.
Itâs not important AT ALL when a build starts the damage. There is only one thing that counts: The GR completion time.
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if a build doesnât do damage for almost a min into a gr itâs not important? so the fact that it takes a vyrâs wizard 14 mins basically to clear the rift because they start a min behind in getting progress?
You are posting in a âIâm crying for a barbarian nerfâ thread. OP is comparing the POWER (aka completion time) to chantado wizard. There is no need for a discussion about the playability of builds.
Itâs actually not. Itâs just faster than Vyrâs/Chant on speeds obviously, but Vyrâs Chant has waaay more burst damage.
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or do not do to others what you would not want them to do to you
chantado 
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heaven forbid the boring wizard class has some competition. keep crying wizards. hahaha
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when your favorite class will be boost, weâll be there to scream nerf !!!
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⌠and doing nothing but spinning around the map isnât boring? 
In all seriousness tho⌠donât nerf WW or Chantodos!
I understand the logic and frustration behind the OP, why nerf one class bc people are crying that itâs overpowered and then in the same patch create another crazy OP build? Makes no sense, but in the end no one should be calling for a WW nerf, instead we should be calling for them not the nerf Chantodo (or any other class build going forward)âŚ
If a build canât clear 150 solo (hell or even 140 without fishing for a perfect map with perfect mob density) then thereâs no point in nerfing it.
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Depends on player I guess? I really enjoy my LoD Meteor Shower because all I have to do is hold down 1 button on my mouse to channel Arcane Torrent, occasionally teleporting and every 6m+ renewing buffs.
I also love my LoD BS crusader (but mainly for T16 speeds / bounties because in push GR you really need to use provoke / arkham champ / laws of valor and iron skin on cooldown, but that is fine for short period of times like run 5-6 GR, then take a break and chill).
I find UE multishot quite annoying to play, as you need to fire all the time so that you kill stuff before you see it, and vault all the time to move around, also use preparation / bat active / vengeance on CD pretty much, itâs very tense playstyle.
Jade Harvester is like playing piano non stop, DoD (zuni or LoD) youâre threading on the edge of a knife whole GR duration. N6M4 sentries is very chill and powerful, but you have to literally creep your way forward in GR, you canât go guns blazing into unknown like LoD meteor / Chantodoâs, LoD BS, and other tanky builds that can charge and move through enemies while getting hit w/o instantly popping.
No. Stop trolling, stop advocating for nerfs.
/closed
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Does this guy really want Blizz to balance around someone with 10,000+ paragon? And isnât the wiz clear with only around 6500?
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That top barb has high paragon and had a very good rift (not perfect). See the video
[Diablo 3 PTR2.6.7 | GR140 Solo Barbarian | Rend WW]
That 140 clear is not legal because he is using macros to cast skills. No human can cast them is such perfect timing and even sometime overriding skill block from other skills.
These kind of player fake the PTR results and should be reported.
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