Then why no other class can do 132 with all that ‘ridiculously strong’ seasonal buffs? I play all classes m8. And the only thing I ‘work for’ is Diablo 3 . Barb is obviously op atm. I don’t say it should not get any buffs just not that much.
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Striaght up boohoohoo to the nerf ranters. Go complain somewhere else please.
Work for your class community, not against others.
Thank you, Free. I’ve been trying to say this, but there is a few people who just refuse to let your advice soak in. Its a shame really. I don’t want anymore builds nerfed. I want all of them made more powerful, and given more toughness.
Personally, I think WW needs more power and toughness, because outside of the incoming season theme, I don’t think it will do nearly as well. Maybe I’m wrong. Either way, WW is not my favorite Barb build, but I might be a little funner to goof around with now.
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Just quoting for posterity’s sake because I like your 4th sentence.
Count me as agreeing to your statement.
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It’s ptr… If they dial back some of the changes its not a Nerf. They never made it to live. A casual should not be able to spin to win a solo gr 125 with 1k paragon. That goes for barbs and wizards and any other class. If they release the barb now as is it will just get nerfed after a season or two and people will cry way more.
Barbs deserve a buff. Everybody agrees on this. Wizards needed a nerf. Most people agreed on this.
Notice how very few necros are crying about their build being nerfed even though it’ll drop them like 8 grs? It’s because everybody recognized it was a flawed build. Vrytodos was a flawed build, but it was so casual and user friendly nobody wanted to admit it. The new barb additions are OP. but because the barb community has been asking for buffs for so long the barb community is getting completely butthurt at the mere concept that the PTR is revealing the barb received too much of a buff. People are literally clearing 130s or higher in the ptr with no augs and moderately low paragon. Name another class that can do that?
Also, I think everybody wants the barb to come out with buffs come season 19, but there is such thing as too much.
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Yes man, just kids wanna have a toy (barbie) that 's all 
killing streaks are really powerfull, and thats good! but on ptr it paints a wrong picture because barb is the only class that has a reason to push at all, the 2 news sets needs buffs and no other class other than those had changes…
Dude this forum is literally the place where we’re supposed to address our concerns with the PTR results. Like, the designated spot to complain about stuff is right here. It’s in the forum name – PTR feedback.
Man, WW don’t need perfect timing… your post is not correct.
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Do as you like. But I’m tired of people calling for nerfs. Its old, its childish, and it sets this game and the average player back. That’s my point, and I am not backing down. Do as you will.
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Mutayshun , whats weird to me is you and Anelyn are on this thead and the Vyr/Chants thread calling for nerfs, and defending more nerfs. Its ridiculous. If you don’t like the builds that are high powered, and you want your favorite builds to be more powerful, CALL FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. A lot of us will gladly support your cause. Can you please just stop calling for nerfs. Thank you.
Nerfing is required to keep the balance in any game. It’s been that for decades. You need to live with that. That is why Vyrchantodo has been nerfed. They can’t realistically buff all other classes in one week.
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Don’t tell me what to do or what to live with, I’m not your’s to order around. And lastly, you aren’t in charge of this game. Maybe you need to accept that A LOT of people don’t like Mutayshuns, yours and Aneluns POV.
I think you’re plain wrong.
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Got butthurt already kid? Sleep it over.
Think what you want. I’m 40 years old. I’ll take ‘kid’ as a compliment.
If you don’t like my POV, don’t respond to me. Its that easy.
Have a blessed day.
Actually it would be very-very hard to open a better rift. The best wood map, full of with the best trash and a lightening pylon at end of the map… it was a dream rift! With very much pushing maybe 1-2-3 GR level plus reachable but I think not more. He started to struggle to survive, so the toughness limitate the reachable GR level too.
I might be wrong or anyone else on this forum. I still have the right to express my opinion. If I say barb is currently op at PTR that is what really think about it. Blizzard will decide how to handle all this in the end
Yeah here’s the thing… I’m not calling for any buffs to my class, its fine where it is, especially with the thorns Nerf it’ll be more in line with the other classes and that makes me happy.
Wanting balance across classes isn’t bad and giving feedback on the ptr forums is exactly what these forums are meant for. Free did a great job getting the barb some much deserved buffs - kudos to a job well done, I am happy that the barb got some love. But l but I’m also free to have the opinion that the buff is a little overboard. You, the barb community, and the blizzard dev team are welcome to disagree with my opinion
Again, I’m happy the barb is getting buffed. You guys worked for it and deserve it. I just happen to think it’s too much of one, that is all.
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Free,
I think the most critical thing is that the final barb buff number is “right” that goes live. If the current buff number is not OP, great I will roll a barb next season.
If the current PTR numbers are OP, then you can imagine 2 options:
A) The buff that goes live is less strong (a couple/few grifts from the OP number). This is what I prefer.
B) The barb buff goes live as OP. Posters start calling for nerfs (like what has occurred for every OP build in RoS ranging from the early DH marauders build, static charge monks, to the present nerfs to necromancers and wizards). Blizzard most likely will give in, and a subset of the barb community will be exceptionally salty.
I am not sure if the WW/rend build is overpowered, I just want them to set the right number to begin with.
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At this point I could care less if barbs are OP, they certainly deserve a turn but if that Rend build is FoTM and everyone rolls barb, RIP Servers lol.
You guys should want that build toned down for your playable standards 
It’s one thing to roll solo on a PTR, it’s a whole different beast to roll 4 man with multiple Rend barbs on live server 
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It sounds like the shift to rend being the primary damage dealer has helped decrease lag in comparison to the past incarnation.