I am just putting this here for the people who do not read the PTR forums.
New Bastion makes a big difference. I went from 14:30 seconds to do a GR75 to 5:00 to do it.
It does help without a doubt.
I am just putting this here for the people who do not read the PTR forums.
New Bastion makes a big difference. I went from 14:30 seconds to do a GR75 to 5:00 to do it.
It does help without a doubt.
Were you just killing elites or did it handle groups well too?
I can do 100’s in about 6 min. Got to watch sustain and DR, not too hard to get ganked.
I did both.
It was actually a little hard to tell what was going on with the groups, but they went down fast enough for that build.
A single elite went down almost faster than a normal mob. It was interesting.
I’ll log in later to test, but folks, make sure you test in higher GRs. A build that can crush 120 at 2k Paragon doesn’t need to worry about GR 75, but the reverse is not true, and this build is never going to compete with Rend or EQ for speed-farming.
Only was able to do a couple runs, was on HC and my barb died.
22k mainstat, no augs, 116 simplicity, 129 Trapped and Stricken
Standard skill set up (cept IP for WC)
GR110
Tried CoE/FoT/BoM/RRoG, wore DD and PoC (100% uptime IP) Seschuan Bracers
Damage didn’t feel great and toughness wasn’t great, healing was solid.
Played it as Elite killer and used TS/terrify to isolate elites. Traveling in between packs was not fun. Got behind on the timer so just left rift (was keeps and not many elites)
Switched to:
GR110
Tried EW set/BoM/RRoG, wore DD and PoC (90ish% uptime IP) Seschuan Bracers
Damage felt a lot better and toughness wasn’t great, healing was solid.
Played it as Elite killer and used TS/terrify to isolate elites. Traveling in between packs was better. Died. Note: when Frenzy gains all runes it gets sidearm which can reflect off spinners and rock giants, good to know but that wrecked my barb.
Probably would have finished in around 10 min.
Probably not worth using PoC if you don’t have the 100% uptime, better off going with wearing Aquillas, wear tUC, and cube DD’s. I used BR StP but that’s probably not worth. Better off most likely with WC/VW, since the healing was really good with bracers and simplicity. I went with IP so I had the CC immunity, pretty helpful for HC.
I didn’t mind the playstyle with the fear as much as I thought I would but there are definitely elites that suck when feared (ghosts might as well skip). Going from elite to elite is terrible since you either skip the frenzy stacking so you can go faster or have to stop after every charge and hit something to keep up the DR. I really felt the traveling was the worst part of playing the build.
@Free don’t think it will crush 120 at 2k paragon, sad to say
I’ll hopefully be on later tonight and testing as high as I can go. Will try to record for the first time as well. My total paragon should be around 2k I think.
Outstanding feedback, my friend.
I know there’s lots more to test, but it looks like many of our concerns are present in your report: not enough damage and problems with DR.
Keep up the great work!
Awesome! I’ll also record some footage!
For Weps I used Oathkeeper and EF. You probably don’t need EF at all. Sunkeeper or Sankis would be good choices. I saw some guys on normal LBs using Sunkeeper. Most of the normal players were wearing strongarms.
Try stacking CDR and using Mortick’s + Wrath. Drop EF for elemental weapon or Sunkeeper.
I had wrath on skill bar and used it for burst. I had CDR everywhere except my compass and had boon, but uptime is still not very good. When I was using CoE FoT I had around 57% but still too much down time on Wrath. I don’t think it would be worth it especially for HC and didn’t look like anyone of the normal boards was using morticks.
Yeah, Wrath uptime is gonna be a problem. You used Boon as a passive and slapped a diamond in your helm, right?
Are you able to try Normal? HC tests are important, but if we can get things working smoothly in SC, we might have a better foundation to approach further testing.
yeah diamond and boon.
I’ll probably leave the normal testing to you guys, you got a bunch of good testers in SC. I’m really interested in seeing if I can get the toughness to a comfortable spot for HC play.
Gonna give it another go after dinner. Maybe try some SC as well, we’ll see…
I am becoming more and more certain that Bloodshed gets all the extra hits.
I was hitting an elite and when I saw the bloodshed proc, the minions all died. They were at 90% life. This was on GR75. Since I still havent broken 1k paragon, it is not that.
I know it isnt because of a normal proc. Stalgard’s has no cooldown that I know of. I have seen 8 of its procs in the air at once. With it and Bastion, it had the usual proc speed, no massive fans going out.
A possible reason I can think of is that the individual hits proc and Bloodshed only looks for crits and not proc chance.
This is assuming that it is a real thing and not just chance, but I have seen it happen 4 times now.
Early research also indicated that is how it works. Now it is a matter of whether or not it is increased by the 2p bonus so it does 40% instead of only 20%. From my observations it seems to do exactly that but I didn’t have the time to set up a test of it.
It is crazy strong, easily added 15 GR levels. If I had changed all if the AD Rolls om my gear, I am certain I could have gotten 20 GR higher.
Yea it is pretty squishy, really lacks that additional source og DR that WW got, especially since you are going to be standing straight in their face and suffer all effects. So encountering an elite with some area damage affix and Lightning or Molten can quickly become deadly.
Bumping the 4p to 8% should cover it very well
I do 110’s at 1400 paragon in around 8-10 minutes. So it is definately possible.
There is a difference between be able to do 120s at 2k paragon and crushing 120s at 2k paragon
The build is a lot stronger than my initial reporting in this thread since the knowledge of BS/AD working with the build and I’ve changed the playstyle accordingly. However, the toughness will really become an issue for 2k at paragon at GR120. I need to build with a bit more toughness being in HC and 120 at 3k paragon is more of a push for me. If I had ancients and augments then 120 would be a lot easier.
My 3.2k paragon and ~20k strength is roughly equal to a 2k paragon fully augmented with ~110 gems and I don’t feel 120 to be super easy and I have to fish for it. There are some different variants coming out so I’ll be giving those a go as well and maybe SC players going fairly glassy will be able to do 120s easier than what I’m experiencing, but the toughness really seems to be a more limiting factor than DPS.
I won’t have time to test tonight or much tomorrow but I’ll try to fix a video of a run.
I still completely agree with fact that it lacks Toughness, that 4p bonus needs to be higher, and I’d suggest 8%. Beyond that the set does perform nicely.
Hey everyone! Good news!
Focused Feedback thread is live in PTR Forums.
Folks, try to collate your feedback there. Whenever possible, include videos!
Are you on the reefs
If by reefs do you mean outer banks of NC?