Trying to make some changes.
Um. Because I like to progress fast as well? Which means that if open trade is in the game then yes, I have to use it.
Here’s the problem with trade. Without trade you have 1 step to find the gear you want: 1) Item drops. (Or, ideally, you have other ways to get it through quests/events/crafting/etc).
With trade you have more steps: 1) Item drops. 2) Find someone who wants what you have and has what you want. 3) Trade.
Where’s the appeal? Why would I want a longer process to get the item I want?
He chooses not to utilize trade but when others put in the effort and time to gain an advantage from trade he becomes jealous.
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Just progress as fast as you can without trading then 
I spent some of my D2 time in a Ladder Selffound Community and we never had any trouble to gear our characters thanks to good planning and team oriented loot sharing.
Your argument is nonsensical. Now you’re saying that you can’t progress without trading. I’ll repeat what I said earlier, if you don’t want to trade then don’t trade. It’s that simple. This is the whole point of the Solo Self-Found (SSF) option. It works perfectly fine in PoE.
I hope Blizzard realise that if the trading system is too restricted, people won’t be happy. It needs to be as open as possible. Perhaps only the 1 mythic item you can equip is bind on pick up, plus items like hellfire amulet from special uber events.
There needs to be ample room for people to trade top tier items. Just have it so that not entirely all top tier items are tradable, as I wrote above. Then it meets the design goal of stopping someone from buying all of their gear.
And another thing, in regards to that last point. Anyone can just buy a top equipped account from a farmer or player who is quitting. So, keep trading as open as possible please, very little restrictions - only on a few key items should bind on pick up be used.
As for bind on trade, that’s not so bad. If there’s a good reason to have it, such as preventing people buying items cheap only to resell for more, don’t see a huge problem with it.
D4 is made with PvP in mind. Luckily that there is no Open Trading in D4 or else, it will be the world of credit card warrior.
This guy is back, still unable to listen. Seems he can’t even take in information.
Diablo 4 has open trading. Just certain items are restricted. Blizzard seemed to suggest that many top items will be tradable, just not all of them.
Blizzard has asked players for feedback, and we are giving it. If Blizzard wants to sell 30 million copies of Diablo again, or even half that, they’d better listen to the concerns of all the players who play Diablo 2, and who have quit D3 long ago.
Kilometer, you seem to be against trading so much. Diablo 3 is the game for you. I’ll bet you’ll still buy Diablo 4 even if it has full trading without restrictions. Just like most other “boohoo no trading” trolls, who claim to be against trading, yet admit they’ll still buy it even if it has trading.
people want deep and interesting itemization yet they dont realize how open unrestricted trading is going against that idea
How is that open trading when it has a restriction? As I said before, luckily that endgame items can’t be traded or else it would be hell for legit players, especially for a game that made with pvp in mind.
Of course I will buy D4 even if it has a full trading, and I will make sure myself abusing it to the fullest as well just to destroy those legit players who don’t spend real money. I can’t wait to see those legit players later crying and beg Blizzard to release the Self-Found league because they can’t compete with credit card warriors in D4. Again, luckily that D4 doesn’t have open trading.
D3 already sold more than 39 million. I think you guys, D2 doesn’t do a very good job of stopping D3 keep making sales.
Even D3 Switch sold 100k in the first 2 days.
Just like you who will still buy D4 even if there is no trading. I hope you enjoy trading potion and crafting mat with people in D4 considering there is nothing valuable enough to trade in D4.
There can not be any restrictions on trading. In my opinion trading is just as important as killing monsters. If you want to play solo self found then there is nothing stopping you. If someone wants to trade for a really rare item, usually trading their rare item for a different rare item, why shouldn’t they? It’s how they want to play and keeps the community alive. By putting restrictions on trading you are telling them how to play the game. What’s the point of having cool items if you can’t share them? Please do not add restrictions to trading.
If for some reason they do have any restrictions on trading.
misc - always tradable, stuff like gold and the skill tombs they were talking about.
normal - always tradable
magic - always tradable
rare - always tradable
set - always tradable
legendary - always tradable
ancient set - bind on equip not pickup
ancient legendary - bind on equip not pickup
mythic - bind on equip not pickup
Everything should be tradable at one point in time at least.
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Wrong; trading offers more opportunity for casuals. If they are blessed by the RNG gods; they could trade their valuable loot for things they need instead of investing more time in grinding.
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You’re clueless. The devs already said some of the most powerful items will be tradable. Just not all. Also a lot of powerful items will be bind on trade, not bind on pick up.
If it’s just potions and crafting mats, which good job it’s not, I won’t play. A lot of people asking for meaningful trading, not just potions and mats. Plenty of people will boycott this game if trading is too restricted. Blizzard has to find the balance of not restricting trade so much that players wil boycott.
Exactly, screw that bound to account b.s.
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I’m sure lots of people will boycott too if there is trading! ^^
People will never agree on this topic. But damn I hope they restrict trading either completely, or at least keep trading only below legendaries.
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Actually every single person who is hugely vocal against trading on this forum who I’ve spoken to has admitted they’ll still buy it even if there is trading. Some of them even said they’ll choose the trading option even if they’re given a solo self found option where there is no trading.
What were their reasons for choosing trading over self found if they can choose? Because trading is more content.
Meanwhile I’ve seen countless players demand unrestricted trading who say they will not buy this game if trading is restricted.
If you don’t like trading, stick with Diablo 3. But you won’t. We all know you’ll buy Diablo 4 even if it has trading.
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Trading will only be fun if these 2 things exist:
- anything can drop for any class at any time
Getting a sick drop for a class I don’t play will give me leverage to get something good for MY class - all but mythics are tradable. all but mythics are unbound and can be worn or traded an unlimited amount
If we are only able to trade trash tier items that you replace within 20hrs of play time there won’t really be any point to trading at all
If I made a good trade for a good item, if that item is bound to me I won’t be able to use that item again for trades in the future which is wack…
It is just words. I could claim I wouldn’t buy it if there is trading, but it would be pointless as it is way too early to tell, and people who claim they will boycott games rarely seem to go through with it (unless they never intended to buy anyway, in which case it is hardly a boycott).
The game having free trading might certainly be the tipping point that pushed me into not buying. But probably not on its own, if absolutely everything else about the game was complete perfection.
In any case it’s just words, and useless feedback for Blizzard.
Those “boycotters” will buy the game anyway, or they wont. Doesn’t make the case for trading any better.
first of all, i do, want a trading system exactly like in diablo 2, hell, i even want the drops exactly the same, and not drop for each player.
but lets face the reality, when you can trade that way. and game is popular, money is involved. lifeless idiots, start “making money” of the game, instead of playing it. making online stores, to run this stores, you need supplies, they start botting, cheating, hacking, andddd were back to the point, where diablo 2 is, dead
full of bots(without even any good reason, people just run them 
)
so its a dead end in my opinion, unless blizzard figures somthing good…
Diablo 3 is dead because they removed trading. Sure it had problems before that, but the game is designed badly and unfixable. Removing trading was a crappy low effort solution. But they chose that path because it was better to make a new game.
Diablo 3 is a dead end too. Filled with bots. Removing trading did not change that.
You deal with botting at it’s core, with a strong anti bot detection system. Like Warden in WoW. It’s the best way without harming gameplay for little to no gain because if it’s possible to bot, people will bot. Botting is dead in WoW now because their anti bot system is so good.