FFA is CORE to D2

[Gulgir-2215]

@Boring-2970

This is D2 , this is for us who didn’t like D3 and wants to relive the D2 experience in fresh way.

This is an interesting assumption you make there.

[Shadout-2849]

@Stavros-1569

You never answered. Ploot in non ladder.

FFA in ladder because yes its competitive.

I would (not that it’s up to me or any of us) would say it’s a compromise.

Not what I would choose, but I would be okay if they started out trying it this way.

Non-ladder: toggle for FFA and Timed Allocation
Ladder: FFA only

Not optimal, but a step forward nonetheless

Honestly, between this and the “ploot in private games” it seems like things are moving. More people are coming around to a solution.

@AnxiousDavid-1818

they might not have blues and scrolls/potions on rolls at all.

Scrolls and potions should be instantly FFA yeah.
Blues? That is more debatable.
Anyway yeah, 1 person could get shako and shaft while another gets literally nothing. That is how RNG works. And same can happen in FFA too.

[Gulgir-2215]

I don’t think that implenting ploot as an option or not is really that simple anymore. As soon as you start debating on details, just like above, you should realize that it is in fact more than adding an option.
I was hoping that people would put more thought into it and realize that it isn’t that simple to do. Even if Blizzard employees or ex Blizzard employees said otherwise.

I have my doubts for the future in regards to this feature.

[Boring-2970]

Yes, because they wanted to remaster an old game and promised little to no change for targeting d3 players.

Logic here <<<

[Nephleim-1365]

True, the people would stop staring at the item so everyone would then stop to see whats being looked at making the owner either pick it up or everyone standing on it to grab only for 1 person to get and maybe arguing to follow.

[Jani-2764]

@MicroRNA-1507

I stand with Rod. If Blizzard were to introduce personal loot, it should be optional and at game creation.

@MicroRNA-1507

I would envision it working something similar to when someone opens a game to the public in D3. Instead of selecting rifts, greater rifts, key warden, or bounties, the game creator sets the loot mode.

@MicroRNA-1507

I have refined that either/or position to favoring separate realms, because it became clear to me that this issue was so contentious, resulting in way too much hostility.

At least we know why Micro has made his post history hidden.
This month i want this, other month i want that. Trustworthy.

[Stavros-1569]

He is 100% spam. He is now in panick mode. Thanks to him posting rods tweet it woke up the masses. FFA loot is here to stay. Not even rod is crazy enough to change it now.

His gloating caused this uproar.

[Rieven-2285]

In fact it was this post in which you guys wrongly assumed there will never be a change to the looting in d2 and the subsequent gloating and trolling that followed it lol. Pretty sure your name is in there stavros.

P-Loot will NOT happen. Rod Fergusson on twitter

Rob Fergusson say this take a deep breath and relax. We’re not doing it. I think it’s ok to have the discussion and understand the implications and expectations of other players. You’re literally fighting against something that isn’t being done. Rob Fergusson say this> Relax - we’re not doing it. People are allowed to discuss things and hear other people’s opinions https://twitter.com/RodFergusson/status/1432788511736963073 what straw will the pro-p-lotters now hold on to??

It’s not the first time I’ve seen you lot talking about this guy specifically. I saw his name reading on d2jsp too.

Why the attempted character assassination of microRNA lol he’s always been pretty polite to you guys despite the way to conduct yourselves.

I might call all my character’s microRNA just for a laugh. See if you guys will make good on your threats to hunt for his ears when the game is released.

[Bugles-2611]

what character assassination ?

[Rieven-2285]

check d2jsp I cba to go and hunt it down for you. Why do you always want me to find your dinner bugles lol

[Stavros-1569]

Ploot won’t ever happen in d2. The issues ploot will cause have been explained a thousand times.

[Bugles-2611]

ohhh . i will go read. i also like bugles btw with salt obv

[Rieven-2285]

lol southern style bbq every time

@Jani-2764

At least we know why Micro has made his post history hidden.

@Stavros-1569

He is 100% spam. He is now in panick mode

is what I was replying too but I’ve noticed his name pop up a few times in the last week.

@Stavros-1569

We see right through microna and blash on with the other 2 ploot spammers.

They have a reason and need to make D2R fail

etc etc.

[Orrion-1999]

@Stavros-1569

The crowd that played this when we were 10 now make 6 figures. I should be the target. I’ll spend money on an honest remake and D4 if this doesn’t fail and anything associated with D2R.

I’m the whale in wow race changing and faction changing every week. Money is insignificant for me and others my age. The true target

By that logic they should be going PoE’s route with D2 and selling you cosmetics and pets and stash tabs and such.

[MicroRNA-1507]

@Jani-2764

@MicroRNA-1507

I stand with Rod. If Blizzard were to introduce personal loot, it should be optional and at game creation.

@MicroRNA-1507

I would envision it working something similar to when someone opens a game to the public in D3. Instead of selecting rifts, greater rifts, key warden, or bounties, the game creator sets the loot mode.

@MicroRNA-1507

I have refined that either/or position to favoring separate realms, because it became clear to me that this issue was so contentious, resulting in way too much hostility.

At least we know why Micro has made his post history hidden.

How is my post history hidden when you have quoted 3 posts of mine? No one can hide their posts. If you want to see my entire post history, you can use the forum search function. My profile is hidden. For your convenience, my entire post history can be found at the link below:

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d3/search?expanded=true&q=%40MicroRNA-1507

My views have not changed. Initially I said either of two options were ok. Later, I said I favored one of those options over the other. That does not mean that I am opposed to the other.

For example, I favor being given $100,000 in cash over getting a free new car. That does not mean I do not want a free new car.

In addition, a separate realm has the added advantage of adding more changes than just the loot system.

Trustworthy

Trust Level 3

[Stavros-1569]

Refund now I guess since ploot will never happen.

[Shadout-2849]

@Rieven-2285

I might call all my character’s microRNA just for a laugh. See if you guys will make good on your threats to hunt for his ears when the game is released.

We will collect so many ears from them

Blizzard, one more QoL Change please; Bottomless Bag of Ears.

@Stavros-1569

Refund now I guess since ploot will never happen.

People probably already did.

But, no, you have zero way of knowing that. Ploot might happen. Or it might not. Doesnt particularly matter, as we are discussing Why and How it should happen.

[Stavros-1569]

It won’t he said it won’t. And if the out cry was indication it won’t be mentioned again.

[Shadout-2849]

Blizzard has said similar things countless times, only to turn around. Again and again.
And outcry… there was no outcry, just a few people spamming twitter.

But you are right. Ploot might not happen. Not very relevant for our discussion.

[Stavros-1569]

I wish we could focus on QOL changes that aren’t core to game. But I’m sure will get there.