D4 skill respec shouldn't cost gold!

That you have to farm for. Right? :wink:

No, that is specifically why there should be a high respec cost imo.

Yes please.

I dont mind having the ability to respec because you want to try something different once in a while.
But please, get rid of the flip flopping between builds, get rid of concepts like speed and push, get rid of “a build for every occasion/activity”.

Those are the exact time where new characters make sense imo.
If you want a Fireball build and a Ice build, and the ability to play both of them frequently, the answer should be 2 characters, just like if you want a Barb or a Druid build.
The Fire sorc and the Ice sorc should be nearly as separated from each other as the Barb and the Druid.

And no, I sure also dont think we should be able to freely swap a character between the different classes.

Now, if you have played a Fire sorc for weeks or months, and want to change to playing an Ice sorc for weeks or months? Sure, that should be entirely possible, and not feel limited at all.

Please keep it that way Blizzard :heart:

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Prior to parch 1.13, one could not respec in D2.

In patch 1.13, Blzzard added the token of absolution and added a new respec reward for the den of evil quest.

Okay. I see what’s your problem. I’ll rephrase it for you.

Happy? :roll_eyes:

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Returning to darkness… what’s not to be happy about?

Stay a while and listen!

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i just meant people will have enough gold to respecc once every 3 months lol xD
don’t be so generous xD

because games work within their limitations
not the limitations that players impose on themselves

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Imo not really, especially if nearly every build have the potential to be capable of strong pvp or pve build, albeit with some tweaks to worn equipment (as in changing some equipped items pieceds). I’d much prefer that in the comparison of having free respec, in which the game is balanced or built around the expectations of players having the ability to respec instantly and freely to suit the needs of whatever content they’re running.

Now if someone were to want a play a different build, then they can either fully respec (pay the cost), or make a new character. That said I’d much prefer a token system to pay for respecs as opposed to gold cost. Then again, they could have both, whereas rare tokens serve as the primary way of paying for respec (at least for high level characters), and if a player doesn’t have a token, then they could choose to pay via gold.

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Let me ask a simple question:

Do you think D3 has auto-gold pickup and a shared stash based in part on well-justified constructive criticism by D2 players about D2 and not wanting to see the same mistake in D3?

For respecs having a high cost is a terrible idea. When people realize that they have limited respecs, they often resist experimentation and just do cookie cutter builds more than what is expected. BORING.

carpal tunnel is real and I’m pretty sure I got it from all the clicking in D2. Picking up gold manually is just not a good idea.

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Ah :slight_smile:
I do think respecs from patches would be good though. If you made a Fireball Sorc a specific way, and the nerfhammer makes that specific type of Fireball sorc a lot weaker, you should be given the ability to change, even if you have no gold left.

Most probably wont care about this though, since with the crazy focus on seasons, the majority will abandon those characters between patches anyway.

:100:

I dont disagree.
But it still feels like solutions in search of a problem.
If the game drops so many gold piles that people destroy their hands clicking on those piles… maybe dont drop all those gold piles :frowning: Instead of “oh wait, lets add auto-pickup”.

Same goes for:

  1. Too many items drop?! Let’s move all the items to the end boss in a dungeon, or to a gambling vendor/cube! :rage: Since the simple solution of dropping fewer items is apparently too hard.
  2. Too annoying to click Salvage on all my items?! Let’s add Salvalge All buttons! :rage:
    Instead of not having mindless item salvage in the first place.
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Where did i say manual pick up?

Let me ask YOU a question.

Whit out picking on a nuance of information left out of my comparison, did you understand what i was trieing to say? That the limiting factor is almost as in D2 NOW. Because i think everyone understood even whitout adding that respecing was made a bit easyer only after patch 1.13.

And there IS room for experimenting because as i mentioned earlyer, you don’t have to respec the whole tree.

I didn’t said no auto gold pick up. Jeeezuuuuuuussss… You people… :man_facepalming:t2:

Enough forum for me today.

My point is having a high respec cost or no respecs at all is bad game design in my opinion.

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How should we interpret this comment?

I suppose something about pets picking up gold for player. That said, it doesn’t say anything about how there shouldn’t be any auto gold pick up at all. It’s not like you need pets to have auto gold pick up after all. Such feature could still be implemented via the players themselves, for example players running over gold automatically acquire it without needing to manually click it.

This is how it is in the game, can we get over it allready?

Auto gold pick up is in every game now. Why wouldn’t it be in D4? Come on guys… Common sense. Please.

I was not arguing against your post :stuck_out_tongue: Heck, I am probably the one here arguing against auto-pick up. Not because it shouldn’t be there. It just shouldn’t be needed in the first place (but still okay it is there - and no, pets should not pick up gold, pets should not pick up anything)

In general, picking up stuff should be a conscious decision. In D3 some items interact with picking up stuff, including gold. When it is picked up automatically, you lose control (of course, it doent matter in D3, since nothing really matters in D3).
For the same reason, health orbs also should not be picked up merely because it is within a “pickup radius”. Let me pick them up when I want to. And let my lazy character have to move to do so.

No arguments from me regarding that.

Respecs should be costly. D3 tried the extreme other end and it suffered for it.

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