And that’s the problem. You did nothing wrong, yet you feel compelled to be on the defensive. That’s the problem, nobody should have to feel boxed into a corner like that. It’s the same reasoning people have with criminality in general. “You shouldn’t be nervous around cops if you’re doing nothing wrong.” Yet, how many of us are ACTUALLY feeling good when a cop randomly pulls up behind us on the highway?
I don’t need help understanding why others think differently on this particular issue. I disagree with how they think. But I do also agree the two of us specifically don’t have to come to blows over this.
As long as you nod along in this thread you are fine, when you go in against OP, disagree with him often enough you will be called a cheater or an accomplice, because in his mind there can be no other reason to go in against him (even tho most here agree on the base priniciple of banning cheaters)
If they did nothing wrong, sure. But if you have proof… actual proof, not that one guys hunches or silly conjecture, I see no problem with it.
We were coming to blows. Neither of us were slinging mud, which I appreciate. That’s a rarity here. Most people, if they can’t get the other to agree begin logging into their sock accounts to badger the other guy, call names, or false flag.
That never happened. Please provide a quote where I said any such thing. You can not, since no such quote exists.
In fact, I think that you have made similar false accusations against me on at least 10 distinct occasions. I have repeatedly asked for you to provide any quote to support this outlandish claim and you never have since no such quote exists.
I think that there are likely thousands of players worldwide who are better than me at D3. Do you really think I reported several thousand for cheating,?
I suspect most D3 players play differently than me. Do you really think I reported millions of players for cheating?
Your assertion is illogical and beyond preposterous.
Why create this false perspective for yourself?
What good does that bring to the thread?
No names have been mentioned for a reason, it violates the forum code of conduct.
Last I checked this is a broad D3 issue that has been plaguing our game since launch.
The “who is cheating” is up to Blizzard not any individual despite the devs suggestions to send an email. We shouldn’t have to email proof when the info to catch cheaters is right on the leaderboards. Sure catching a streamer with video proof is irrefutable, but there are tons of cheaters that don’t stream making twitch a less ideal method to catch them.
Playtime is great at catching botters on the boards, or bounties completed.
The cheaters will go through great effort to keep cheating, its very sad. The blame tends to get pointed towards threads like these instead of the fact that cheaters are violating their accounts. Accountability isn’t rocket science and avoiding it by trying to troll a forum post as an outlet is something we’ve seen a lot of.
It’s a place to start, I do admit that. It’s not always a definite. There were some in these forums who invented their own weird metric on how much means they’re a cheater. One said “more than 12 hours a day” when there are gamers out there who that’s being very casual.
Again, it’s something to catch your eye to make you look further, if you feel inclined but isn’t proof as some may have you believe.
And they’ll continue doing it, no matter what. Just keep on… keeping on. Don’t let them gaslight you. I’d like to say they’ll get bored and stop but there are those folks who never develop composure.
There are only 4 hits where one is your post in this thread.
The closest thing that I found was this post that said players who play “more than 12 hours a day” should be banned due to being botters or for health reasons. In fact that person acknowledged that there are players who play more than 12 hours a day legitimately.
While not proof, 12 hours averaged daily across an entire season is a LOT or work, especially for such a repetitive grindy game. Sure it is possible but honestly should be looked at or flagged considering how old this game is, historically how many cheaters there have been, and how little the botters care about getting caught.
A lot of factors would have to line up to be able to bust 12 hours on average over a period that long.
Kid… Unemployed… Even streaming in D3 doesn’t pay the bills because there isn’t a large enough audience.
Agreed, it isn’t exact proof but definitely raises a few questions.
I’ve known people who game all day and 12 hours to them is nothing. I personally couldn’t do that but it’s not uncommon. There are people who do even more.
Saddest one I remember was a guy who said his wife works, he stays home and games. He makes her keep spreadsheets for him? Never understood that part. She works, keep your own?
I concur that high average hours across season raises red flags especially as those hours come closer to averaging 24 hours per day.
I think that it is important to keep to the facts without mischaracterizing what others have said. That is why I did the fact check.
This reminds me of the whole improbable versus impossible discussion that happened on the forum. It is ludicrous that someone kept interpreting that highly improbable meant impossible which we know is not true.
Especially when the discussion involves banning an account. Gota stick to the facts.
Yea, I too know a guy that quit his job and played street fighter all day long while his wife worked lol. But even while unemployed, he couldn’t average 12hours a day for 5 months. Street fighter isn’t exactly GRs all day either and is much more engaging compared to D3.
Any account with super high gametime should be monitored in D3, and let the hacks team determine whether or not they are guilty.
Just go visit twitch and see some of the “top ones” play. They all use 3 party programming to autoclick for them. Proof is there, Blizzard just doesn’t care
Yet with over 1k replies, Blizzard still does nothing.
Exactly, they are earning money while giving the middle finger. Hey have you heard you can report to them by email? Oh they are still not doing anything? Oh boy, I wonder why.
Would be a shame to actually read the reports they get… Those poor streamers would need to manually click like a legit player is.
Still not enough when they allow multiple players to cheat. don’t make a ban wave just to only ban 10 % of them. So no, they have done nothing.
How about you talk less. This is a forum, where we actually talk… Blizzard needs to uphold their rules better.
I don’t care about the leaderboards. I care about players that cheat gets banned. Moreso those who stream it and earns money