That’s what streamer fans believe.
Wait a minute… maybe they’re…?
Some facts:
- MissCheetah, the MVP, who directly communicates with Blizzard has stated repeatedly that Blizzard in general does banwaves rather than banning individual accounts that have been identified. My recollection is that you posted in those threads where MissCheetah conveyed Blizzard’s overall strategy for doing bans (specifically banwaves and not one-by-one bans after their discovery).
- Having said that, I can think of a case where an individual was banned that was not part of a banwave. Specifically, there was a streamer who had his video up that setup and the botted overnight. In this case, I think that players was banned shortly thereafter.
Exactly this. However, I do not respect nor trust anyone here.
They wrote some statements without evidence, so I can’t really use that for anything. All I wanted was some proof of their words, which never came through
Unfortunately, I don’t think anyone will be able to or could supply proof. We have had some hearsay but but believing something based on that is “appeal to authority”. So all we have is what we can see with our eyes.
Just like you know, those 2 spoke as if their words were the proof. All they needed was to either admit this or just don’t speak as if they were the only truth out there.
I hope bans come outside of waves ( hinting to the other thread about streamers for example )
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Correct. Nothing wrong with saying “I heard from…” but when people say things as fact when they really don’t know for a fact. 
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Every one who plays D3 can see evidence of ban waves. Specifically, one can open the seasonal leaderboards and look at the “composition” of the top 4 player teams. If the #1 ranked 4 player team does not list 4 players in the game leaderboard that means a ban wave hapoened.
For me personally, I would not post on a forum where “I do not respect nor trust anyone here”. I think that there is heterogeneiry in people’s posts. Many are definitely worthy of respect and trust.
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Whats sad is your perspective.
This is a thread about an ongoing issue of cheaters not getting removed, yet your fix is removed them less often?
The current anual banwave of a few accounts isn’t cutting it.
D3 hasn’t seen a true effective banwave since s15.
Sure some accounts get banned, yet there are still cheaters on the current and past leaderboards, especially on the front pages.
The ONLY solution is to ban in real time OR more frequently.
Yup, seen it many times before, nothing new.
But ask yourself why they put that level of effort in to a thread like this.
They probably benefit from cheaters whether they cheat themselves or play with cheaters, hence the severe opposition or derailing.
Enough back and forth, stick to the topic plz.
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They doing more than the haters believe. The issue is not something which can be dealt with easy. U want to have info on what they doing and how while they clearly stated they wont share such information for obvious reasons, any reasonable person would understand without blizzard speaking up as its not the only company facing the same issue.
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First throw some unfounded suspicions and then try to have the last word by shutting the discussion from one side leaving the other side unable to defend themselves.
Luckily you are not the forum police and i will defend it again. Just like dimlgun has clarified if jtp wants to report people who he has seen on stream cheating, more power to him. But he keeps denying that in general blizzard does banwaves and not individual bans. While anyone who has played this game and kept an eye on the leaderboards know that during a season they do not suddenly move up the leaderboard outside of banwaves where you suddenly move up several spots. And yet he keeps persisting that he wants hard evidence from a statement from blizzard, when there is no hard evidence, all the evidence is the history of at least d3 and some statements from people like miss cheeta. Even you know that they mostly do banwaves and not single bans between waves, otherwise you wouldnt have anything to complain about IF that was the case.
So that in no way implies that dimilgun is pro cheat, because for example dimulgun has asked
So dont push people in a corner that they dont belong just because we dont 100% agree on everything.
Blizzard made very clear their stances in cheating and principle in banning cheaters from numerous sources whether from live interview at Blizzard con from likes of Quin69, Blue posts on old forum or direct messages from Brandy (Neverlitis). Players like your age / from past era should be well aware how Blizzard tackles cheaters and is it not rosbot server got taken down? Its quiet spectacular how ill intelligent comments are made and ignorant this community has become.
The game is dying. What hasnt been done will not be done. The game is on maintenance mode. End of day, Diablo franchaise is known for cheating and exploits. Gear duping was popular almost 30 years ago in D1… D2 was famous for various exploting / duping / $$$ trading from workshops. D3 and 4 just followed traditions of this franchise. We all know what this franchise is about. In 2024, moral standard is supported by $$$. Where there’s no income / resources, there are no protection against cheating. Besides, many has played this game for 1000s if not 10s of thousand of hours. The value of return has way passed the paid costs. You seek fair gameplay. Is it fair Blizzard has to support you eternally for $50? If you sold an item to someone for $50, do you accept warranty claims after 10 years?
Get over it. Find a way to play the game or simply move on and do not waste more of your time. 2024 isnt 1990, there are tons of games surpassed Diablo franchise worthy of our time.
As frequent ban wave as D4 is, majority of exploiters isnt banned and cheating technology advances way faster than Blizzard anti cheat team. The latest D4 warden is useless against new Chinese / Russian simulated Blizzard Launcher apps. Besides, the bigger the company, the less things actually gets done. What we face here is because Blizzard is sold for 68.7 billion USD, not 687K USD. Most iconic games, worthy of nostalgic and has upright moral standard were made and serviced when the company was a nobody.
Ehm no. Not at all. How about you take a read then…
I was seeking info if they ban outside of the waves or not. 2 people believed that their words alone was fact. But they have no evidence.
That was what the discussion was about. Get it right the next time instead of lying.
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So someone who isn’t exactly going to be the same way as you is probably a cheater or playing with cheaters?
Nice one, really
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Always these exaggerations; lying… If you are right and i have not read carefully that does not immediatly make me a liar. Its funny that you are light on calling insults but have not problem throwing insults. Where have you seeked information with an open mind if they ban outside of waves? Because in my eyes you have been quite on the offense on demanding hard evidence, just like last season where we had the exact same debate.
It’s more like, why do people here insult others in a debate? There is really no need to do that. It is known that some cheaters write here, so they will defend it as well.
If they are cheating or not, we can’t say, but it looks suspicious.
It does make you a liar, cause I never doubted if they have banwaves or not. What I was seeking was info if they are banning people individually or not. Which 2 replied back that they are not. Then I asked for some proof of this, and never recieved it.
It makes you a liar cause you wrote something I never meant nor wrote.
Open mind ?
Come on.
So in your logic, I should just trust what people write here? So now it’s a bad thing to ask for evidence?
If someone is hellbent on typing a statement, then they should have something to back it up with aka proof.
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You will never know, you have to accept this idea.
Except if a blue post appears, or a cheater comes to say that he has been banned outside of a ban wave 
You have several pieces of evidence by now, just not a black and white piece of paper from blizzard policy, because there is none as Blizzard will always want the free hand of banning someone who is for example hacking the blizzard app or something other egregious.
- Your cheater from last season suddenly stopped after the banwave.
- People like you and metalhead complain that there arent enough bans and people keep cheating and only banned in (some opinion cherrypicked) banwaves. If that was not the case and blizzard would ban in between then these threads wouldnt exist
- Several people have told you already, not just these 2 as you call them. For example microrna has told you and he is an expert on reporting people.
- The history of banwaves, people do not suddenly move up a place outside of banwaves.
No I have not.
I have :
- Words from users here ( means nothing )
- A couple of links to articles stating that Blizzard did banwaves.
Those links does not tell if Blizzard is banning individuals outside of those waves.
So no evidence at all. Just cause you believe everyone on a forum, does not mean everyone else should.
Oh, so some people having the same opinion is now considered to speak in facts?
So some say the Earth is flat, according to your logic, they are correct and we should trust them.
That’s really not how it works.
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You forget your own example where your cheater who you reported or emailed on several days to hack teams and not get banned before the banwave. So like i have said last season and said before in this latest same debate wait and see again. We can go back and forth into infinity, but ill be curious if the cheaters you have reported now and will be banned (and lets hope they will) by the banwave you will see the that all those randoms on the forum were right.
You stated that you reported a streamer repeatedly for cheating and had video evidence. That player’s account was later banned according to what you posted.
Do you recall when that player was banned?
Did the timing of banning coincide with a ban wave?
I would not go that far. I have only reported cheaters twice since D3 released. However, it is clear that Blizzard routinely bans the same player over and over again as the cheaters continue to cheat despite being banned multiple times on alt accounts.