Yeah, which would entail a kid playing to much. My argument you just replied to is as far as you can get with fact based statistics, anything after that is pure guesswork.
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Really pulled that out of context, i said that about the same minor/parent discussion now going on. Just saying you are setting yourself up for discussion when you say impossible, there is always going to be someone who will try to disprove it, im surprised no one mentioned insomnia yet.
So you are saying Strix and Kargon are filthy cheaters? Because that is what you are inderectly saying when they are coming with probabilities or possibilities.
I don’t think so, even if some members like to invent things, like “you’re a cheater”, “You have puppets” and so on.
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Cheating is cheating. This was discussed a long while ago and I debunked some degenerate armchair lawyers who kept talking about “impossible” when they have no basis for comparison. Likely not even moved out of the house yet to know what lengths people will go to in order to accomplish something.
You can ban bot programs but people will go to lengths to find alternatives.
Right
Right too
That was not my rrecollection.
Edit: I found the relevant thread. See:
Improbable does not mean impossible. It never has and never will.
While we all are entitled to our own opinions, rightfully so, this comment has absolutely no basis and wouldn’t make any sense since I want all cheaters banned.
This also breaks the forum code of conduct so I’d recommend removing these childish posts before you get muted and possibly removed from the forums.
As previously stated from the devs, please report all proof of cheating to hacks@blizzard.com not the forums.
Unfortunately they are not on my radar, and never did I indirectly suggest that they were lol. Their words and actions do not suggest that they are either so not sure where that came from.
This is the #1 excuse I’ve seen cheaters try and pull to justify their 24/7 bots.
No human, with insomnia or not can pull that amount of hours off, so no it is completely debunked.
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If they are the ones talking about possiblities, and then you say those that make up possibilities try to hide the truth that they are filthy cheaters, its not hard to guess who you are talking about. But ok you didnt mean it like that, but why then make another ambiguous remark like “unfortunaly they are not on my radar”?
Just saying it is completely debunked doesnt make it so. Anyway i dont want to go into it as i also dont believe in it.
It never was debunked. It was blown out of proportion. People were suggesting ways people could have so many hours. That was brought up as a possibility and some crackpots ran with it as if that was the only thing ever suggested. They just wouldn’t let it go. You try and shift the discussion towards another possible reason and they immediately gravitate back to that, coming up with a bunch of bull 
math or half-cocked theories.
That was mentioned in another thread. That still can not explain any person playing 24/7 for months. As you know the world record for most days without sleeping is ~18 days. As sleep deprivation continues, the resulting phenotypes are quite bad, including serious cognitive and behavioral changes.
In fact, there is an extremely rare disease called fatal familial insomnia. It is invariably lethal with death occurring on average about 18 months after initial symptom onset. Humans require sleep to stay alive. It is basic human biology and physiology.
It was debunked in its entirety. People need sleep to survive. No one can stay awake 24/7 for months, let alone play D3 the whole time.
Yes, i’ve already said i didnt want to go into it as i dont believe in it anyway.
Last year there were 680+ kids reported which didnt go to school at the age between 10-16 in my town. The population 100k. The real number is much higher and estimated to around 3 times the number. There are also kids 6-10 which i dont have the number of and the 17-18 y olds. It is obligatory for all children aged 6–16 years to attend school in my country. U dont have to go to high school however as that is still optional. School is free also. Its a huge issue and pretty common issue which been getting worse the last couple of years.
I meet those kids every week. Now if u think of the number worldwide and then look at the numbers on LB it doesnt look as unrealistic as u would want to believe. Its not 1 in 10 billion. Thats just bs and a clueless statement.
We are discussing playing 24/7 on a single account for an entire season.
In your scenario, one still needs these school dropouts playing every second of everyday that the guardian is not playing. That is not feasible.
As far as i know the discussion were about 23h accs where a parent child share acc. Going by the numbers its very much possible. There are alot of ppl who play a unhealthy amount.
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That is incorrect.
Even 23/7 accounts are hugely problematic.
The parent/minor would need to have almost exclusively non-overlapping sleep schedules. Also, they would need to coordinate nearly all activities so that one of them was almost always playing.
Yes. However, at some point is goes from unhealthy to being nearly impossible without cheating. Occam’s Razor is the simplest explanation tends to be correct.
Correct. Nobody was ever seriously talking about anyone playing 24 hours a day by themself for the whole season. Some nutjobs were obsessing over that concept so they can pretend they know what they’re talking about. There are people who have been recorded going many days without sleep, some even gamers.
The discussion was about people having kids play for them which is not unheard of. There are a lot of bad parents out there and considering the articles I’ve read, having it making your kid game for you is nothing compared to what some parents have done.
In addition, my town has an alternative education program for 9-12 graders. They go to school for 3 hours a day.
Or they could just keep being logged in.
Leaving the game running. However right now u not talking about if its possible or not. U just saying u dont believe its happening. Whatever u believe is on u. However the numbers surely shows its possible.
Again if u think about the numbers worldwide. Thinking that there are some who does exactly that isnt unrealistic.
Sure. However i would like to point out that its not always bad parenting which leads to kids skipping school. Sometimes it has to with things like diagnosis, rape, divorces parents and other things which had a huge impact on the kids. Ive meet kids who didnt go to school after seeing their parent got murderered and then spend all their time playing games.
Under normal circumstance, an account left running will logout due to inactivity.
P.S. I know there are tricks to avoid this, but keeping your computer running D3 longterm while idling is detrimental to a computer’s health. Ask yourself, why would someone do that versus the simpler explanation that they are botting/cheating?
In terms of being unrealistic, we know that there were accounts that had 21+ hours per day on the leaderboard. I recorded them all in a prior season. Blizzard banned them all for cheating/botting.
I think this shows reality versus possible unrealistic explanations.
While you are correct, that’s a different reason why someone may have a ton of hours. The prior discussion was account sharing.
What you described is one of the other explanations. There are probably more that have not been talked about. The discussion stemmed from some nutjobs who maintained that if you have either X (random number they made up on the spot) or more hours than they do, you’re a botter. It’s basically what happens when you see theories by someone who got a D+ in remedial science.
And having 8k+ posts on a game forum is unhealthy. Still there are ppl doing it. It rly is such a weak argument.
The question is if its possible. It is very much possible and consider the amount of ppl it is realistic that some ppl do.
Its like asking yourself why anyone would smoke or drink alcohol. U dont need to agree with them but that doesnt mean none does that. U srsly basing your conclusions on emotions. Stop that and try be objective for ones.
Im not saying there arent botters. Im saying there are other possible explanations. I find it very concerning that u still dont get that. However im not gonna continue to argue with u since u obv can go on forever. 24/7 on forum. Infact u must be a bot~ atleast according to your logic.
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