Cheaters on the Leaderboards

If you follow that logic, we also know that in every banwave some still survive, so those must be legit right? So they must be the real parent/minor sharers right…

You keep making and repeating this false claim. You have never provided any quote at all to prove that anyone on this forum said this.

I will ask again:

Please provide a forum quote (just one will suffice) where someone said that? You can not since no such quote exists.

that is not the logic

Clearly, I do not. I keep a fairly traditional sleep cycle.

Then it is selective logic

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I even have talked about people botting on multiple accounts at the same time. For example, players will bot on their “main” account and then run a second cookie account that has lesser hours. When a banwave hits, the cookie account frequently survived.

There really is no way to prove that. Which is why playtime alone is not a good metric. It’s just something that idiots who go around reporting everyone use to justify why they did it.

Occam’s razor provides the best explanation for accounts that play incredibly high hours of D3 over months.

Im not talking about their cookie account, im talking about that some “main” accounts also survive the wave, so they must be legit then.

Bot accounts can and do survive banwaves. Presumably, these accounts were not caught when warden was run by Blizzard.

I have never claimed that Blizzard caught all botters. I claimed that I recorded in a prior season leaderboard accounts that played 21+ hours per day. All of those accounts were subsequently banned by Blizzard.

My point is that as hours played per day approach 24 hours over several months in a season, the likelihood decreases dramatically of those hours being legitimate.

Then you should have said they banned some, and not all.

Also you should say improbable and not impossible.

They did ban all on the leaderboard that averaged 21+ hours er day during that season.

Did you not read the part where I explicitly said that I recorded them all (where I was referring ti 21+ hour per day accounts).

He meant all of the accounts that he reported were banned.

It’s sad that we the community have to report through such a strenuous method vs. Blizz automatically policing their game. Other rog games have a beter grip against cheaters, but acti blizz seems to be struggling, especially in CoD regardless of their announced ricochet.

Yes i did, but im sure you set your sights on the top of the leaderboards, and some still survived in the top.

For the ones that I am talking about (21+hour per day average), none survived to my knowledge in that season where they had a late season banwave. I double checked each one with these crazy high average hours and every single one was banned.

Wich season was that?

Season 27 America region

Season 27 lasted 177 days. To average 21 hours per day for the entire season, a player would have 3,717 hours.

The late season 27 banwave occurred I think on January 25 (maybe the 26th). At that point in time from season start, it was ~152 days. To average 21 hours per day for 152 days, that is 3,192 hours.

Even if you still see their name on the leaderboard, you need to double check their actual website profile. Is it empty? Does it say last updated ~January 25? There is a leaderboard glitch where names are not removed but the account was banned.

Also if relying solely on the in game leaderboard (not a good idea, please check their actual website profile that includes the last update date), what is the date of their top clear (is it before or after January 25)? Did they play on the same account in the following season?

:popcorn:

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Well you seem mostly right, then i definitly dont understand those that complain after banwaves.

Anyway most would argue that it is improbable, but get hinged on the word impossible.

Mostly right?

Were you able to confirm a single example of someone who averaged 21+hours per day in S27 that was not banned?

I am reasonably certain that I am completely right about those bans.

Although we can talk about all these possible explanations where some are so far-fetched, there is the obvious reasons. As I said, every single account that I recorded in S27 that averaged 21+hours per day was banned by Blizzard.

I think there are reasons. For me, the main one is that there are a small number of serial botters who have been banned 5+ times. After multiple bans, I would argue that these scofflaews should be permanently banned from D3.

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Yup, and we are seeing them back at it on top yet again taunting the hacks team, and wasting leaderboard spots.