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Yeh, I can see the barb being like Conan and like Kratos from gods of war too both are believable to me.

Maybe if your bigger than normal in ancient times you can bully the smaller dudes and steal part of their dinner lol… Then you snowball from there and end up huge :smiley:

To be honest though strongmen and body builders are different animals. Strong men normally have less definition I think.

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Or maybe, just maybe, the fantasy heroes we play shouldn’t be based on a vague notion of nutrition, particularly in a game where the characters don’t ever have to eat.

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Fixing the Amazons jaw line and making her look less bored is not going to make her look more cartoony in any way.

She looks more serious and threatening and less like a fictional cartoon with the original model. I could find you many women IRL that look like the original but I’d have to search far and wide for a lady with the remaster jaw line.

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You are right about that. The D2R barbarian is neither a strongman or a body builder. He is a bit above average meathead.

The druid in D4 is built after a strongman type of person.

The barb in D2 is built like a body builder. That should have flown through into D2R and D4, but it has not.

I don’t disagree with that. The jaw is still off. It can be done within the art style that they have now.

Sure I 100% agree with this, people have already made fan modification pictures of her that are very okay with me.

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The barbarian weak in d4? from the pics i have seen the d4 barb gets the closest to the og d2 one. much more than the d2r

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He is not weak at all, and he is closer to D2 than the D2R version – He is just a ton smaller than the druid.

imo, in terms of strengh/bulk and fulfilling the overdone fantasy trope of hulking berskerker who kills stuff with weapons (read: Barbarian), if I had to rank them: D2 >= D4 > D2R

When you look at images of the D4 barb in static, he looks 'uge. In gameplay, not so much. Check out the class secion on the D4 page: Diablo® IV (blizzard.com)

He is TINY compared to the druid, but still pretty big. In gameplay though he feels like an average person (I played the beta at blizzcon dozens of times). Many of the run of the mill monsters like fallen and goatmen are bigger and more imposing than him, which is a bit of a shift from D2 and D3 barbarians.

See above. Notice how the barbarian in D4 is literally wearing the same helmet Conan is in the video you linked

But hey, Arnold/Conan themed barbarians just don’t make sense in a Diablo franchise. They should be small, average, malnourished dudes.

That is not what was said. What was said is that being out actually fighting is not the same as sitting in a gym with all your steroids, foods, and weights.

Do not take things out of context or spin things please. Barbs should certainly be big, but the idea that they are muscle bound oiled body builders is a bit off.

get rid of the oil and the random notion of muscle boundness and that is exactly what they should be. especially because that is what they were in D2, and they look closer to that in D4 than what we have in D2R.

Also, Arnold Schwarzenegger is not, was not muscle bound. Part of body building is building your body so that it is strong and agile. Flexibility is a core component (not like yoga, but having full range of motion). Don’t disparage body builders – it is a sport about perfecting the body. Notice when they demonstrate their bodies how they take exaggerated movements to demonstrate the range of motion as well as their bulk.

You literally said an Arnold (specifically) themed barbarian doesn’t make sense, when it is clear that in D4 at least and likely D2, Arnolds portrayal of Conan the Barbarian was in inspiration in its design. You cited a lack of nutrition as an example of why they should not be bulky (malnourished), or as bulky as our modern day olympians.

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so you would rather have a medium built old amazon with a male face rather than a young, athletic, femininely amazon?

also would rather have 25%+ bodyfat barbarian with a beer belly than a hulking maniac that was the D2 version?

I guess we all have different taste.

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I don’t mind a little oil on my barbarian, but I also don’t mind a little leg and tight shirt on my Amazon.

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Your reading comprehension is very off. Do not try to put words in my mouth.

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perhaps because im a native korean. but from what I read you think these guys fit the theme.

Would be worried if i had to go fight demons with a fat barbarian and an old hag that is the amazon.

Would rather have the roided-up looking Barb and a younger slender amazon who’s agile.

I think Barbarian represents a hulking menace of a warrior on rage wielding giant weapons. Think of like a mix between the hulk.

The girl above was criticized by a very vocal minority. I live here and not ONCE I’ve heard anyone criticize her for her haircut. That’s media bs.

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So you need this person then Olympics-Archery-South Korea's An shrugs off hairstyle critics to win third gold | Reuters
She is Korean and best in the world. Yet Korea online social media trashed her.

The girl above was criticized by a very vocal minority. I live here and not ONCE I’ve heard anyone criticize her for her haircut. That’s media bs.

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So you think online social media campaigns represent only a small minority? I mean, I agree.

There are so many people in the world. If you made it big in any way, there is going to be one or two people saying nasty stuff for no reason.

I’m not sure why talking about a young korean girl with a short haircut matters though. All that matters is that there was source material and they strayed super far away from it.

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again, I live here, nobody and I mean literally nobody criticized her for her haircut, or was even a topic of conversation.

It’s media created bs. Yeah of course, a small minority of haters out there that criticize everything. It’s literally 1-2% of the population that is batsh*t crazy here.

Also short hair-young female that is a real life champion in her sport cannot be compared to an old-lady-man faced amazon that is completely different from the original.

As far as I’m concerned, this was a re-master and not a brand new diablo series…so they should stick to their original and improve upon that and not make her into an older man-lady like thing.

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Yes, Cheetah, we understand that you think the community that you manage on this online social media platform is a small, vocal minority of sexists. You have made that clear through several posts here.

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