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79 Metascore by critics but the people that ACTUALLY play the game 0.6

(https://www.metacritic.com/game/ios/diablo-immortal/user-reviews?

seriously the game is a train wreck

For the metacritic critic scores, the 79 metascore is largely due to critics that only played early/mid game. It is until closer to end game that the progression and gear rate slows egregiously to promote buying things/p2w.

The 0.6 user scores are abysmal but I will admit that they are a too low, but understandable give the atrocious p2w elements in the D:I.

yeah but if the mid game etc is bad enough to only earn a 0.6 end game isnt going to magically make it better and Blizzard needs to just accept the fact they have a game that is on the fast track to failure

they heard from day one this wasnt going to be the groundbreaking game they hyped it up to be and they chose to willingly ignore the feedback because it wasnt what THEY wanted to hear

Only $10,000+ advantages really count!
Anything below is basically free to play.

Uh, I thought combat rating could only differ 10% between players.

But this sounds very different.
So if player A has 10,000 CR and player B has 1,000 CR, they still end up with 1,000 vs 100? That can’t be right?
That would be ridiculous.

Lol, I didnt realize you could heal in BGs. That sure would have helped.

Maybe he had whales on his side?

People seem to ignore that BGs are a team competition.

I remember! I also remember the 1000 other cases where Kilometer said something similar to others.
It usually went something like:
“If you are still playing D3, it apparently must be good, so you can’t criticize it.
If you are not playing D3 anymore, you also cant criticize it.” :crazy_face:

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Because you always gave misleading information?

So this is the first thing that came to your mind instead of talking about the Asia region. :rofl:

Sorry to be disappointed, but my country doesn’t ban loot box. :sunglasses:

Because Rax and whales have similar power levels according to the Matchmaking obviously.

I like how you never entertain the possibility that maybe Rax is just a bad PvPer compared to the guy. You are just like those people that watching the streamer. Every time the streamer got killed when running Elder Rift, their first response was always something like “It must be the game intentionally made it harder so you need to buy power up from the cash shop, totally not the skill issue.” :rofl:

One sample while ignoring Wudijo beating those people in his streams. Wudijo must be lucky for never encounter a single whale in his battleground stream then.

More like you just refused to accept the matchmaking feature so you can demonize the DI further.

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You have said that you do not know how matchmaking works. I have showed you an ecample of it in action.

And I also show you an example that Wudijo has no issue playing with or against whales in his streams, and that is not one battle, but numerous battles.

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LMFAO Wudijo this and that :man_facepalming:

WOW just WoW, one streamer who spends over 6-10h in groups a day playing the game and wrecking whales means that everyone one else who can’t spend over 6-10h a day playing DI can do the same thing right?! :roll_eyes:

ONE F2P streamer amongst 100s if not more (incoming) whales…

I wonder how many average joes in Diablo Immor(t)al who can’t spend 6,8 or over 10h a day or spend any money on a mobile game can say the same thing?

The moment I heard about that you need:

110k $

to fully max out ONE CHARACTER or play 10 years to get there I knew I will never play the game even if the gameplay was God-like…
In fact 110k $ if you’re extremely lucky and up to 500k $ if you’re not:

Just read the first comment which has currently over 3,5k up votes for proove.

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You forgot one crucial part. DI is MMO, not your single-player ARPG. If you know how MMO works, you can never max your character (even if you could, it won’t last long) as every major patch will move the goal post. So don’t worry about maxing your character because you can’t.

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There is no MMO out there that requires:

110k up to 500k $ to get ONE (not ALL but ONE) character fully maxed out!!

This is OVER 9000 level of scam!

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I think that most rational people recognize that most free-to-play games are monetized in some form. The difference is in how they do it. Some certainly do it better than others.

If we think about monetization in free-to-play titles as a 150m dash with a start and finish line? Some games maybe go a 1/4 of the way. Some may go as much as halfway. Diablo Immoral on the other hand goes past that finish line and is off starting it’s own race in another county, three states away. That’s how excessive and egregious the monetization in Diablo Immoral is.

In no scenario should it cost a player $100k - $500k to max out a character.

I should also point out that a certain developer has been rather disingenuous. They have defended this saying “We aren’t selling gear.” While they are technically true that they aren’t selling pieces that go in your various slots? The gems themselves are absolutely monetized and these gems are socketed in the gear so the end result is yes…the game is still pay to win. Especially where PVP is concerned.

It’s not my place to tell people what to do with their money, but if you don’t like Diablo Immoral. There are other ARPG’s out there worth a look. Check out games like Path of Exile or Grim Dawn for instance.

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its like so many other problems that occured from this company in the past it never became a problem until Blizzard made it one

i mean name any other P2W game that EVER reached this level of pay requirement in order to progess?

sure there were several games that asked for crowdfunding through kickstarter by offering incentives like founders gear etc but this extreme level of aggresive monetary marketing it NEVER happened in a P2W game until Diablo Immortal came along

I think in general, any company be it Blizzard or otherwise does the old two steps forward and one step back. They do something incredibly heinous then walk it back to look like they listened to feedback which is likely where they always wanted to end up in the first place when it comes to monetization.

Diablo Immoral certainly takes the cake though in recent memory.

Blizzard is a perfect definition of the monkeys paw only we know which finger they present to the players

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This is really the crux. I don’t think anyone would have a problem with them having a cash shop where you can pay $15 or $20 a month and get everything that’s offered as far as things that affect mechanics in the game. And if you wanted to do free to play, you had that option as well. If you wanted to go a la carte on the cash shop you could also do that.

It’s this black hole of spending that is ethically criminal.

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all of these complaints wouldntve been an issue if the cash shop ONLY had cosmetic items which didnt affect game play in any capacity

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Yeah I mean that would be much less a problem but it’s still really unfortunate that looking cool in games does not equate to accomplishment anymore. I still think the $15 to $20 cash shop cap on mechanics is the best way to go and just leave cosmetics alone.

I mean I’m not ripping on cosmetic sale games, as they’ve chosen a more ethical path. But it’s certainly not pure. While I once supported it more, I’m realizing I miss the days where you looked cool only if you had some in-game accomplishments to achieve such things.

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You’re shifting the goal posts so hard you’ll end up in a different field.

But let’s briefly review some facts from D:I’s site:

Battle against ancient evils and discover the untold story between Diablo II and Diablo III in this all-new massively multiplayer online action RPG

I’d say split the difference because D:I is definitely not a single-player ARPG, but it’s also definitely not a traditional MMORPG, which is what most people associate with the term “MMO.” D:I is pitching itself as an “MMOARPG,” and while there’s a whole different debate to be had about what exactly that entails, that’s not really the point.

The point is that the game is massively P2W, and that anyone who doesn’t buy in will be at an astronomical disadvantage in several different game modes.

But as LeVar Burton once said, don’t take my word for it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mJH26OT8yQ

4994 posts so appears social …
This user’s public profile is hidden. On the payroll?

hidden profile means no way to mute or ignore them hmm you might be on to something after all they can continue to interject their own opinions and try to sway public opinion to come around to thier way of seeing things