IP? who is using ip with ww?
Yup, my bad, but still 50% armor from Stone Gauntlets and 20% armor from Taeguk. Itās more than Frenzy has.
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And ww can Move arround and trough mobs.
Wotb Uptime with frenzy is a Joke.
So yeah, ww is way tankier and deals more dmg.
Like i said before i would like to see 8% dmg reduction, cc Immunity while under the effect of 2 shouts and you (Not frenzy) deal 1800% increased dmg for each frenzy stack.
After these changes we can talk about testing and Balancing
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There is now a 137 frenzy clear for a player with 9017 paragon. Most items are ancient/primal with 150 augments except 2 items that are normal legendaries (gloves and compass rose).
Still in line with what everyone has said in this thread. Even if you give it +5 levels going from PTR to live it is still ~5 levels behind WW.
What are the other classes clearing that got new sets? Funny no posts from you about that. Go some where else, barb set is the least of your problems, ābalance kingā.
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Blizzard already said crusaders are still potentially too strong even with the nerf. I suspect that WD and wizards will also be strong. WD may surpass ww/rend barbs if things go live as in the current PTR iteration and that wizards may be similar to barbs.
Please keep in mind that the top frenzy clear this PTR would be the #3 ranked clear if it was made in the prior PTR where ww/rend was being tested more extensively. The top Frenzy clear is only 3 GRs below the top ww/rend clear from last PTR.
Last PTR had far more barb testing than the current PTR
Last PTR Top clear 140 (Darkpatator)/138 (Ubiquity). Neithr has tested this PTR
Last PTR: 7 non-season clears at GR 135 or above
This PTR: Top frenzy clear GR 137 with 4 frenzy clears at GR 135 or above
It may turn out that frenzy will be 5 GRs weaker than rend, but the available data suggests it may be less different. I am not willing to make a more precise prediction because the data is not yet clear enough. Letās remember there were only a few people who successfully predicted ww/rend potential last PTR.
Edit: The top frenzy clear is GR 138 in non-season. The only higher GR non-season clear in the last 2 PTRs is darkās GR 140.
I believe that was posted in a ābarb feed back postā. Count up your posts in barb related posts vs WD feedback vs Wiz feedback and report back 
Funny how all your time is spent hereā¦
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Actually, most of my recent posts have been in DH and necromancer threads, the two classes that Blizzard considers weakest.
For example, I made 31 posts in the āWhere is the DH playersā thread and only 16 in this thread. I also made 31 post in the PTR thank you thread for DH & Necro.
Non-Season players who use the Crimsonās variant.
Yup. Worse, it still lacks a distinct identity. It doesnāt do anything particularly well. Still needs BUFFS.
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Have you checked the rank #2 top 4 man non-season PTR clear that has 2 barbs, wd and monk? It has both a DPS barb and a zDPS barb. Check Robās barb.
For your convenience I even grabbed some screenshots.
NIce. Figured it would get looked at more now that freeze procs the 2pc. Would like to see the video to see how fast the RG kill was, whether a power pylon was used, and what RG it was.
I suggest Micro, that if you want to complain about the meta that you create a separate thread. This issue and your issue with it, is with Blizzard not barbs.
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I am just making sure that posters are aware of the PTR data. I know many posters claimed that it would be impossible for Frenzy barbs in the current iteration to be part of the meta in this thread. I think that the PTR data on 4 man non-season clears would suggest otherwise (that was the top clear until ~30 minutes ago).
Frenzy barbs do seem to have a unique identity even if they do not end up as powerful in solo.
Have you checked Robās video? And my comments about RGK possibility?
It is not even close to Crusaders. Usually it takes > 3min to kill a boss (In Robās video he has a power pylon nearby). Barb in season with paragon 2400 died 20 times.
E.g. If barb kill boss in 180s
Crus kill boss in 120s (After nerf, it does not affect much). That means Crus AOE has 2.25 barb single target dps.
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Perfect gear, 7k para, speed and power pylon.
Trying to derail the thread again. Just ignore.
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We tested Barb as BK yesterday in 150. Single target Blighter, no pylons was 3:30 min (para 6150 + gg gear).
I think crusader could still kill in ~2 min and can deal better with adds also.
Like sVr commented: The Barb RGK that we tested in this pairing is a failed attempt at an RGK. Crusader and Necros do the job much better.
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Rob had 6808 paragon.
The only clear to beat the one that I mentioned has a crusader at 9579 paragon with awesome gear. Should we exclude that clear too? The 3rd rank team used a crusader @ 8548 paragon. I am not saying that it will be better than crusaders but it is not as bad as some are saying.
It is not the only 150 clear on the PTR that uses 2 barbs. The top 5 clears on the PTR all have really good gear/hgh paragon.
Good lord. Wow, that ās a major problem, good job on finding it!
Any idea whether the chain inherits the damage only from a main hand weapon, or oscillates back and forth between main and off hand?
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It should oscillates, based on which weapon proc the chain.
But I didnāt remember clear, cant access my pc now.
No. Based on Rudiās test. P9000 crus has ~4 Barb Frenzy dps. How can p6000 fill the gap?
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Itās hard but just try to ignore the troll guys. Heās derailing the thread again. The thread title obviously says [Barb] H90 Focused Feedback, yet heās adding nothing but BS.
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