For the first time in a long time, I can honestly say I’m thrilled by the proposed Barb buffs coming in 2.6.7.
For those who haven’t seen it, the PTR notes are here.
This is a direct response from the devs to the Buff Proposal Rage and I wrote, found here.
For once, I feel that the devs listened to the Barb community, took our feedback seriously, and implemented it in a careful, thorough way. I’m extremely excited to test these changes when the PTR opens on the 17th, and I’m very grateful to the devs for their willingness to listen to and implement community feedback.
Part of the reason I’m posting this in GD is to encourage other class communities on how best to be heard. Do you think your class needs buffs, changes, or special attention? Do what we did:
Organize
Communicate
Write
Rage and I have a good understanding of basic game design. We stuck to what seemed most likely and, for lack of a better term, with the “rules” of D3 design philosophy, and we provided extremely thorough feedback–numerically and conceptually–for the changes we proposed. We framed our request as an argument: Barbs are weak compared to other classes, some of our builds are broken, and our best builds rely on gimmicks or exploits to be truly powerful.
If you want change in D3, make it happen! Follow our example!
Hmmm The crusader one sounds nice, the monks one… I really really really dislike tempest rush. Dumbest skill in the game for me
Guess I cannot complain too much though
We discussed that skill in our Buff Proposal. Alas, it didn’t make it into this patch, and likely because it needs completely new legendaries to be worthwhile. If Revenge ever gets tweaked, it will happen a ways down the road.
While not every suggestion has been taken at a 1:1 parity, the thoughtful analysis helped guide us to changes we could implement in this patch. Thanks very much to the community members who expressed their concerns in a respectful, constructive manner. It’s very helpful, and we greatly appreciate the thought and effort that went into making your voices heard!
Looking forward to Rend buffs thx @ Free and Rage for your work
We DH don’t even get our most important forum threads stickied! We try to communicate via forums (even with ritual pizza sacrifices) but nothing gets across.
While I know the developers read our DH comments, it just feels like we’re ignored!
The problem with Free’s suggestion is that one of the basic tenets of their proposal is not applicable to several other classes. Specifically, they claimed that barbs were the worst solo DPS class (that may not be true according to Prokhan’s analysis). Also, the definition of “meaningful buff” is problematic.
Congrats to some buffs, the new monk set is absolutely useless and really no buff except wind (no ltk, uli, tr or gen buff which were highly asekd for). But at least the barb buff should give us the hint that pointing on mistakes will probably change something.
I very much disagree with this part of the post. Wizards have done this to death. It worked for Barbs because a lot of the community rallied and agreed with barbs.
I’m glad barbs got some long overdue changes, though. I thought Wrath of the Wastes wanted Dust Devils to be removed because of server strain? Do we really need Dust Devils? just axe it and move it over to Rend and reduce the load on servers.
Few other interesting changes. RIP to Thorns necromancers. That was broken and needed the nerf. Will be replaced with Demon Hunters in the meta. LoN Starpact is still hugely obnoxious and it wouldn’t surprise me to see WDs Wizards up next. Thank god, because this is the 3rd straight season of Chantodo’s. As far as Chantodo’s getting nerfed,well, I can’t say it wasn’t justified.
Really looking forward to seeing the testing that comes out of it. Thank you all for being constructive, positive, and thoughtful!
