Looks like Chantodo Archon will dominate again…
It’s like waking up on Christmas morning, and finding that your parents bought all of your gifts from the Dollar Store and Wish. 
Nev just found out about the bug, it seems.
I’m pretty sure 2 weeks of time frame is plenty to fix things up.
Correct me if I’m wrong.
First iteration 1000% per hydra head, 7x multiplier on both Serpent Sparker and Magistrate -> total damage multiplier 101x7x7 = 4949
Second Iteration 1200% 6p, 5.5x on items -> 121x5.5x5.5 = 3660.25
Current and final iteration 1300% 6p, 4x on items -> 131x4x4 = 2096
WTF!? How can they possibly not know that increasing the 6p bonus by mere 100% is not enough to compensate for the multiplier loss from supplemental items?
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Because blizz cant do math And not listen to community, So boycot season And let them …
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I agree. Linking some math to help support / show the issue:
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They may make another iteration after the patch hits servers this week.
Where do you see this?
There’s almost no chance of that happening.
It’d be nice, and it’s what they should do (or have a longer PTR where they do more iterations), but I definitely wouldn’t count on a change coming after the patch drops. Post-patch changes are almost entirely critical bug fixes or reactive nerfs to something they didn’t expect to be strong. I can’t remember the last time there was a reactive buff immediately following a patch. It certainly hasn’t happened in recent memory.
The last time this happened was Patch 2.6.7a
Nerf to AoV crusader build (Shield of Fury change)
Lamentation belt getting 100%-150% rend damage modifier
Apparently my memory isn’t very good haha.
I think that was more the exception than the rule though. It’s not common for them to buff sets/items between a patch dropping and the season starting.
You’re correct. They did that as an exception to please the masses.
Maybe they will do it to fix their mistake for us.
To be perfectly honest, barbarians quite literally made the forums explode when the nerf went through.
By comparison, barbarian complaints about the WW/rend nerf dwarfed the amount of topics and replies from every complaint for season 20 so far for all classes combined.
Ironic, for barbarians being such big, strong, muscular warriors, they throw some pretty epic temper tantrums. I still maintain they are the best class in the game.
Lol, too true. I’d wager Wizard is the best class based on how they stand and the awesome transmogs. Everything about them just overflows with confidence and authority.
Firebird is one of the coolest looking sets in the game (sans the helm). It looks awesome in red, black, blue and white. I usually add leorics crown to top it off <3
Well, it’s time for us to be the masses my fellow wizards for these nerfs to the new set don’t make any sense!
Exactly, we definitely should be putting up more of a fuss here! Bazooka was gutted, we got nothing else but this hydra set and a decent speed set to start the season out with. That’s it guys! End of the line if hydra set doesn’t perform!
They’ll see when ToV goes live I guess and the underwhelming pushes start.
1500% is the absolute minimum change needed, so let’s hope for 1600-1750
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They did not really nerf the set, they nerfed the complementary items. With those two being as strong as they initially were you’d have the problem that LoN/LoD outshines Typhons Veil, albeit the set being especially dedicated to Hydra (and Hydra alone). From that point of view I can understand what they did. I fail to see why they overdid it with the nerfing, though… and especially why they did not up the damage of the new set accordingly. Right now the set is doa and thanks to the Sparker/Magistrate nerfs LoN/LoD isn’t cutting it either.
Back to Chantodo Archon, I guess 
Wizard really have to scream louder for blizzard to even notice let lone making any suggested changes. Haven’t you noticed they did not know about the 4 pieces TV bug until after the 2nd PTR patch hit ?
The bug was discussed very extensively and the CM were NOT even aware of it… no wonder why they kept nerfing because the only thing they saw was SS and Magistrate doing too much damage complaints.
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I have to laugh, cos even as it is, hydra set is pretty good imho.
Please don’t use WW rend barb as an example - it’s OP AF and should never have been buffed prior to s19 starting cos so many barbs whined about it. If players are doing solo GR 150s well within the time limit (as what happened with WW rend barb on PS4 in s19), then it’s OP.
There is zero need to replicate this power creep with other sets & builds.
Blizzard needs to learn 2 things:
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mathematics
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how to balance properly
That’s about it.
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