Aegis of Valor -- A wasted opportunity

[MadTom-2218]

I completely agree the current set design idea is really mediocre, especially the defensive 4pc part.

[Mugsy-6765]

@Borussia-21263

Really happy the new Set supports Fist of the Heavens, as this has been requested for ever.

However, I think the ‘design’ is more than poor.

This was my first thought when seeing the set. The playstyle would be no different to creating a new shield that has the 2pc bonus along with a buff, adding a buff to FotH on Darklight and then we can use FotH with the Akkhan set which allows us to get 100% AC uptime more easily than this new FotH set. This means spamming FotH will be easier too!

A set should add a playstyle/mechanic to the game that no other set can give.

I personally wanted a pet build where you’re controlling a legion of phallanx minions and also attacking from afar with FotH, Blessed Shield or Heaven’s Fury.

[Borussia-21263]

Yes, literally no difference. I’d rather use 2pc of Aegis and 6pc Akkhan lol

[Mugsy-6765]

@Borussia-21263

I’d rather use 2pc of Aegis and 6pc Akkhan

LOL, I was literally theorycrafting the same thing earlier today. The FotH buffs from legendaries would have to be around the 800% mark though to do anything with Akkhan.

Hopefully this set won’t be the usual 6pc slots so that we can get Aegis6/Akkhan4 going but I suspect 56% CDR will be tough to hit, especially if we can’t fit in Crims. They really should have given the Crusader set some more thought… start with what playstyles Crusader sets encourage:

• Akkhan: spamming a direct damage skill
• Roland: spamming one of two direct damage skills
• Seeker: spamming one direct damage skill with the use of a second simply for DR. This at least feels a bit different due to how blessed hammer plays
• Invokers: leveraging off thorns to apply to a direct damage skill. This at least feels different when gearing it up.

So if anything, Aegis stays consistent with Crusader playstyles in that we just spam one skill and try to keep AC and Iron Skin up… but with 4 sets somewhat promoting the same “spam a direct damage skill” gameplay, it would have been nice to get something a bit different like a pet set.

At least the monk got a 5th playstyle to its line.

[MOE-22195]

@Mugsy-6765

it would have been nice to get something a bit different like a pet set.

And what makes you think a pet crusader is going to be any different? Remember the Ponybuild?

[Mugsy-6765]

@MOE-22195

Abd what makes you think a pet crusader is going to be any different? Remember the Ponybuild?

Quite a few Sader pet build ideas here:

Hopes for new sets

That they’re not simply used to provide a damage buff to under utilized skills. Legendaries can do that. Instead they should focus on enhancing interaction between skills/introducing new playstyles in an interesting, intuitive and functional way and adding interesting twist to existing skills. That they take up some slots not normally used for 6pc sets so that we can create X6/Y4 builds that are competitive with straight single class set builds. That under performing legendaries aren’…

Pony wasn’t the only phalanx rune to get used… Archers use to be used with Rolands until they changed it.

[MOE-22195]

@Mugsy-6765

Pony wasn’t the only phalanx rune to get used… Archers use to be used with Rolands until they changed it.

Yeah but pony build was the competitive so called “pet build”. Which was basically just spamming AC and a spender.

[Sinobu-1488]

1. Yes, DR have to be instantly, can’t be build up no matter how fast you can stack them. period.
2. The whole ideal of FotH hasn’t enough support leg. All other build has weapon(s), bracer and shield to further boost the dmg. In the mean time, FotH only have darklight. What should be used as a shield and bracer? Can’t think of a good and meaningful one.

[Kirottu-2131]

@Sinobu-1488

In the mean time, FotH only have darklight.

It also has a belt, adds more damage and RCR.

[Mugsy-6765]

@MOE-22195

Yeah but pony build was the competitive so called “pet build”. Which was basically just spamming AC and a spender.

Which, if they buff the phalanx items, it could be when using Akkhans… but the other runes deserve some love and a set based on commanding a bunch of phalanx minions like the archers and foot men would be a lot more interesting than what we’re getting here.

I’d do something along the lines of:

2pc: Phalanx gain the Bowmen, Shield Charge, Shield Bearers and Bodyguard runes. Heaven’s Fury and Phalanx avatars are automatically spawned every 5 seconds.

4pc: Your Bowmen and Shield Charge avatars attack where you strike with Fist of the Heavens. Each hit from Avatars reduces the cooldown of your utility, laws and conviction skills and you gain 60% damage reduction for 15 seconds when Heaven’s Fury hits an enemy.

6pc: The charged bolts from Fist of the Heavens has a chance to cast another Fist of the Heavens. Phalanx, Heaven’s Fury and Fist of the Heavens gains a 10,000% damage bonus.

This would stay true to the original Aegis vision but adds additional mechanics that make the gameplay more interesting.

[TheLastTitan-1835]

yeah interesting the set doesnt have a shield and only 1 wep. i’m not sure how the numbers are going to add up (played most other crusaders not Foh). Power wise the 2 piece has potential, probably what is going to make it viable.

[iThinkiWin-1727]

The entire game is a mess they have to pump out those large numbers
10K is necessity, other wise the 6p would just state “Greatly increases FoH damage”, and then you would be complaining: “Whats the numbers!” like in #1.

[Jako-1213]

I agree completely with you WT.

[DonMartin-1373]

Is it so hard to reply in one of the 20 other existing threads about the same exact thing? Nooooo…special snowflake needs another thread.

[Aspirine-2366]

It’s kinda sad that someone not in the gaming industry can come up with better set for the crusaders. Devs please pay some attention to your fans, they come up with some good stuff.

[n9ne1987-1158]

Fist of the heavens is more rune than skill

[Oblivion-1520]

@Borussia-21263

2pc:
Every use of a Generator or Fist of the Heavens reduces the cooldown of Heaven’s Fury, Consecration and Steed Charge by 1 second. Generators generate 10 more Wrath.

4pc:
After casting Heaven’s Fury, you take 60% less damage for 12 seconds. Standing in Consecration increases all healing by 50% and standing in consecration increases Wrath per second by 10.

6pc: (now this is really an effect that changes the way you play)
Fist of the Heavens lets the Rays of Heaven’s Fury crush down on the targeted enemies dealing their remaining damage instantly.
Heaven’s Fury deals 5.000% more damage and Fist of the Heavens deals 10.000% more damage. Your generators deal 20.000% more damage

I would have a grand amount of fun with a set like this along with the support legendaries you’ve suggested.

[Jako-1213]

Conspiracy Theory:

Blizzard made the Set so lackluster, so now they don’t have to add stash space.

Want to play Fist of the Heavens? Get a 2.6.7 Darklight. Equip LoD or Akkhan. You’re done.

[WinterBurnt-1770]

Coming season dun have addition stash space?!

[Horax-1774]

Agreed, the new crus set is a lazy design,
btw love the suggestion, it makes other skills can be used (at least) while using the set and it is more fun.