Sure kid, whatever you say.
I do the same and its true that this reduce the chances of playing a part on the rmt scheme
But once a rmt item enters the market there is nothing preventing it from being traded with a legit player for legit loot
Thats why people are asking for a ssf mode
Sure there will be bots but what they farm wont affect anyone else
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Hmm, I wonder why GD and last epoch are also so much addictive even without trading?
Those wanting trading can have d2 for that. D4 is not d2 2.0, and will never be.
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I mean yeah I think most agree. D4 will meet in the middle with d2, and d3 it seems. Most players want the games to be different too. We don’t need 3 versions of the same game. It’s Just a select 3 people on this forum that want to make D2 into d3. They keep spamming the same topics every other day, on different accounts. Been reporting for spam.
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The truth is d4 dont need trade and it will be limited.
Blizzard acknowledge the issues free trading comes with and have decided to have it restricted. They also stated that they believe that the core of diablo is to slay monsters for loot.
Botting will still exist most likely as they cant rly prevent ppl from cheating. However they will have less impact and there be less spam in the trade channel.
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Yeah. I personally dislike paragon. It allows bots to get entirely too strong. We can trade and get the same items a bot has in diablo 2 R, But you will never catch up to the same paragon as a bot in Diablo 3. Its a terrible leveling system. there should always be level caps, so bots don’t just get infinitely powerful.
Trading is cool because, Even if I don’t need said item. It still feels good to find it, knowing I can trade it for an item I actually need. Completing a trade is a nice rush of dopamine lol.
There is not really an impact in d2. The way d2r is designed It doesn’t matter if someone has more loot than you. Your eventually going to catch up, as in characters only get so strong in d2r.
I guess what I’m getting at is, Systems like paragon causes more issues bot related than RMT ever will.
Haha…pay money so someone can play the game for you? fine! as long as trading doesn’t exist this will not be much of an issue. suck it up.
This is the problem. The bots who are selling items for $ can’t bother me because they are not going to compete me on ladder nor join my game to kill me, but the cheaters will.
There won’t be less spam. The spammers such as d2rr, p2pah, aoeah, etc are not legit sellers but they are still spamming for nothing. Whoever want to spam can spam. I don’t think they care about if there are business.
I am just smiling. 
I like paragon because i dont like hitting a ceiling where there is no point to continue. Bots are cheats so obv it have a advantage no matter what game and paragon or no paragon.
I dont share that feeling. Trading isnt fun or exiting for me. Its only a faster way to gear up. In some sense it ruin my experience as getting gears from trade as u could skip all hard content and still get all the best gears. I do understand some ppl want faster ways to gear or easier ways. After all thats one reason ppl bot. However as it brings plenty of issues i wouldnt want it in a game which will have a competetive scene.
Thats just hitting a ceiling caused by the lack of endgame challenge. Obv the game is old so wouldnt expect much challenge but newer games tend to offer just that. D2 also lacks a competition which is something newer games put more focus on.
Not rly. They cause different issues. Bots affect 1 players acc. RMT affects the whole community. U can ban a botter which bot but u cant ban a whole community.
They are the same ppl though. They bot and sell gears for cash while having a fully decked char to join you. Bots dont sleep.
It will. Ppl spam in d2r and in lost ark because of there being trade. They not spamming in d3. Its rly logical, if u cant trade there is no point advertising RMT sites.
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Just got to say, I can’t imagine a game that should be the size of D4 not having trading. Just about every other decent game out there has it and it shouldn’t be a discussion of if, but rather how to implement it so it’s relevant to the players and discourages botting and currency sellers.
It would be a good game which is about killing monsters for loot rather than sitting in town or search some third party website.
Thats why they only considered decent. Most games struggle with the same issues. Competetive players acknowledge these issues and if u look at these game forums ppl complain about botters ruining the market.
They did discuss this and thats one of the reason why they came to the conclusion of having it restricted. They weighted the + and - of having open trade and decided to go with restricted as that they figured it would be the better approach.
That’s what I’m saying though, Why buy items when you can just trade, and hit the same spot a bot is in. I heavily disagree. Atleast in d2r i can catch up to botters. You can’t in d3 its impossible. LOL,
What wrong with a game having and ending? Its not a competition when a bot can just run 24/7 and hit thousands of paragon XD. Not to mention the crazy power leveling if you join another botters rift. Its a joke, D3 really screwed up with paragon.
Why does it matter how much gear another player has? RMT is truly optional, and does not effect your personal experience. Unless your one of those kind of people who get jelly about some random player you don’t know having enigma or something.
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And u could play to reach the same paragon as a bot in d3.
Will u have as many HR as a botter who farms when u at work? U can hit the ceiling where u beat hell with ease just like a botter sure.
Nothing left to do when u beat it. Its a matter of taste. Some wanna keep improve others want to be done.
Its about beating GR150. There is no competition in d2 at all and ppl seem fine with it.
? Its crazy power lvl if u join another high lvl player. Just like it is in d2 with boost and all. And what about botters dropping free gears in d2?
Matter of taste. Just like ppl believe d2 screwed up with open trade.
Why does it matter how many paragon another player has?
As we talking about d4 where there be pvp, gvg etc. When u can buy the best gears it rly makes it harder for those who dont spend money to compete. As u wont hit ceiling as early in d4 as in d2 that would be a issue. Just like u believe botters in d3 is a issue.
I care about fair competition where u wont be forced to go to RMT sites to be relevant. Its kind of odd that u seem to believe ppl who bot for paragon is a issue but ppl who bot for gears arent. It messes with the competition regardless. Again i understand there is no competition in d2 but d4 will be different. Thats something u need to acknowledge.
You can not. People sleep. Bots do not require sleep. People with multiple bot accountd can feed their gear to a single account.
some people here on these d2:R forums think that “if they add a solo self found ladder it wont have cheaters” or botters. and the ladder will mean something.
its quite simple… as soon as you make something competitive, people will cheat.
Your not forced to RMT to be relevant, You just said it yourself you can trade and get gear a lot faster. And even beat a botter in pvp.
I mean, yeah im just speaking relevant to D2R.
I’m fine with d4 being the way it is. I have d2r. and trading belongs in d2r in my opinion. Its a huge reason why people play this game. Its like stonks but, diablo items lol.
It doesn’t.
My point was a perfect grief is a perfect grief regardless of cheating or not. With the paragon system the same items don’t have a ceiling. I can have the exact same toon a botter has with same stats. There is nothing they can do about it, in D2R.
RMT is even faster than trade. Stop acting dumb.
Im speaking of d4. The thread is about d4.
Maybe for some. Ppl play it for different reasons. Trade and d2jsp isnt something i like.
Odd that u say that now consider u said this earlier:
There is clearly difference. One time i was playing d3 casually getting my own paragons. Then bam joined some dudes game gained like 600 levels. Ruined the experience. Felt like I cheated lol.( this was also the switch version). Not sure but p.c. is prolly way better. I hope.