with end game gear??
yes absolutely balanced.
otherway why i will spend hours farming if i will be the same weakling as trash gear?
this game it’s so feel OP, and feel progression after you farm gear, not to continue being the same trash as lvl 1 with 1-6 damage java as lvl 99 with your 80000 hr’s worth in gear.
If your character can’t clear a TZ you have failed at one of the easiest games ever made
but they are.
if you play sorc, you can’t kill ubers
if you play pala, you will be slower than java killing cows
if you play smither, you will win ez in PvP
if you play barb, you will kill travincal and farm better than any other class
etc…etc…etc…
i see… you can’t see the diference. we are not going anywhere if you can’t. it’s like talk with a wall.
they do right now, except barb, that guy it’s absolute trash. so by your logic we don’t need nerf anything but buff barb.
wrong the topic it’s about answer a simple question:
What you will win if they nerf hammerdin?
On to the Next Nerf and the Next and on n on… And yes there will be more there always is 
An ultimately more balanced game.
And in before “but why only hammerdins?” this nerf will set the precedent for other needed nerfs to come. I don’t mind that approach.
Hammerdin should have to face more immunities for sure i got you they shouldn’t be able to dominate the map. But yall are completely forgetting that light sorc + java are better classes than hdin.
All classes should have areas they can farm and areas they will do OKAY in and areas they cannot do or it isn’t smart to do because the kill speed is slow. I’m fine with a hammerdin nerf, but honestly other classes should be buffed.
The biggest advantage to hdin is that it is the most AFKable char that can fight pretty much anywhere. High life, infinite mana, good block, good resists, decently easy FCR BPs, high damage. It does everything too well, but I’m not really sure how you nerf it and keep it viable, but then again it has been the #1 class for a long time, maybe you just nerf it into the ground.
Lemme ask YOU a question, friend.
What will you LOSE if they nerf hammerdin?
Will you lose the option to play your favorite hero and build? No.
Will you lose the satisfaction to enter a full game and fast clear any chosen zone without having to use your brain? Yes.
Will you lose the ability to farm items and HRs for 1/4 of the time other builds need? Yes.
Will you lose the ego boost that you are stronger than 90% of the other heroes around? Yes.
We want a game where you need to PROGRESS from killing NM content to HELL content to p3 → p5 → p8 with farming and smart character building.
Yes?
I like how everyone here ignores the fact that hammerdin can clear solo p8 with basically no gear and compare it to end game build sorceress or javazon with expensive gear.
Ignorant, that’s what you are.
Enigma is the same cost as infinity normally.
After that the cost to build either character is nothing?
Yes a hammerdin could walk the map, but a light sorc wins cuz teleport.
And if we’re talking no gear, still light sorc wins, insight can get you past any tricky mob that you have to fight.
Good point,
What will you lose if they nerf hammerdin?
How will this affect your life?
This game is not eSport. That means that there is no “Winrate” you have to keep up to be successfull.
Do you understand speed and efficiency, or p8 difficulty?
Unskilled player there I see
Try to clear p8 content with light sorc and no gear
Hammerdin can charge ahead and kill everything with 2 spirits on p8
Light sorc with 2 spirits won’t do crap
Not even mentioning that you are obviously noob sc player
Try to go with no items sorc in hc and let me see you cry after you die over and over again
anything else you wrote is just the same babbling you been doing all day in this thread
dont like it?
go back to lod
the most important thing that’s why i play diablo 2, i will lose the FUN of play diablo 2
i will, it will not be the same, consequence less fun
i will lose the fun of spend hours and hours and hours farming end game gear for my hammerdin to being able to faceroll on p8 game, i will lose the incentive to even play this game.
i will not even farm anything, why i should? i will be a trash build anyway, not worth the time.
irrelevant, this isn’t an e-sport and the only competition it’s be lvl 99, thing that i can’t care less.
correct, we want that, and with trash gear, every build it’s trash (wait not every build, you just need a javalin 1-6 damage to kill with javazon or some trash blue items to being able to kill with sorc… MmmMMmm maybe we should nerf first sorc and java before hammerdin if we follow your logic).
Crazy are you still stuck on 2 spirits after a day or two on hardcore?
You’ve got the skills, keep charging away bud!!
Light Sorc and Java and better. Hammerdin is easier. You seem really salty about this. Did a hammerdin abandon you and your mother when you were 5 or something?
Who said I am stuck with anything? I am giving you a comparison while all you do is fight me over something you know I am right about.
People like you are a plague to society
Can we finally close this thread.
After 114 Postings OP is still not satisfied with our answers and probably never will.
The op does not seem to be able to accept any counterpoint given.
the op does no seem to be cooperative to find a middleground or compromise.
From the beginning op never tried to find an answer for his/her question but just wanted to “bash” anyone who thinks the hammerdin should be adjusted
All I can say is: Don’t Feed the Troll and lets move on with our live.
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Report the first post for trolling, it might get closed.
i don’t understand what you said here, are you trying to being ironic?
Wasn’t talking to you? Though yes I was being sarcastic.
I have a hammerdin and it’s just too op.
Hammer needs to be nerfed definitely. Like -50% damage and it will still be too strong. Needs more nerf