Well yeah, but that’s expensive. Gotta work for that Infinity.
why 5??? i think it’s too much i want it at 3, 5 will be to easy.
i would bought fohdin
i can kill pretty easy on p5 with any java from the market in cows hell, god i don’t even need any other gear, just that blue java 1-6 damage.
why you don’t self nerf yourself? i mean you don’t like hammerdin because it’s strongh. you can make less strongh by not giving him hoto or shako etc…
no one it’s forcing you to make it 515615641541k of damage?
Why you want force others to live with a nerf that you can do it right now for yourself?
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are you really comparing a spec that only does well on basically one map against another that plays well for 80% of the game?
wow, this is what i call a biased view
but then it wouldnt be the game that would be balanced
let me ask you something
why do you want to keep hdin so OP?
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Cuz I wants to facemelt the screen while I watch youtubez and play around with my smart phone! 
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Do you realize this game isn’t an e-sport right?
i mean when this game was made there wasn’t e-sport or competitive things etc… etc…
just a videogame to be happy and take fun with it, that’s how all videogames were made in those years.
there’s nothing to balanced, the only that this game need talking about builds are three things.
1- rework inmunes or give a way to break all inmune not just lightning.
2- buff weak builds.
3- rework unique items (specially leveling items) and make new unique items (for leveling and end game).
This game it’s about builds and trading and people use and buy items based on their builds, the simple solution it’s make new items FOR and only thought for every build.
You don’t need nerf anything.
and the best proof for this game in PARTICULAR, it’s people will not play other builds even if you nerf hammerdin, people will continue playing hammerdin and sorc and java. Not because they are OP, but because they are the only viable builds to clear content fast and without problems.
The faster you see this, the better, that way you will see where are the main problems of this game.
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nerf hammerdin plz
this break the balance from a long time
in the same time this nerf the bot
broken op magic damage
everyone know is broken , fix it plz
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Its not about winning. Its about balancing game. My opinion is that nobody should be able to clear game on high player setting online with their builds. If build can clear content solo on high player setting while being online, balance of game is garbage.
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wrong they will change to sorc for pindle/mephi/andy/shenk/eldrich/countess as it was at the start when bots appeared.
sorc / java / pala fit there, probably even corpse explosion necro. Nerf all then? after that what you will play barb?? a barb that can’t even kill in p1 on hell with the actual builds and crap items? (o yes grief bla bla bla, i challenge you to make a barb self found).
so make a game where you need 1 hour to kill one mephi? how many runs you will do before unnistall the game?
this game it’s about FUN, not dificult or too much complicated, this game it’s 20 years old, not 20 months old.
all they will have to do after is fix cold sorc he all know the 2 issue in this game , after the game will be fix , the dev need too start some where , also sorc is a lot more expensive compare paladin with infinity, everyone know is broken ,
Exaggerate much? 
really?
i think it’s already close if you play without teleport, imagine if you nerf all the viable and “strongh” builds.
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I have to disagree here with two things.
Good viable hammerdin is not cheap as he require enigma and CTA and few others things. Blizzard sorc in comparison is quite cheap. Yes if you take light sorc, she is also expensive with infinity. But cold and fire sorc doesnt need infinity to farm on higher player setting.
Second thing is that you said they have to start somewhere. I dont think so as it will only make people angry and rightfully so as their build is nerfed while others op builds will prosper.
Only right way is to make full rebalance of skills and I think even immunities and make all the changes in one patch.
Nerf anyone for online so its very time consuimg to clear content above /players 3. You call it nerf, but I owuld make complete rebalance of skills and some game system together with items as you need to do it for proper balance.
Game being 20 years old is not excuse to have poor game balance.
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Ya’ll are noobs lmao
but it’s an “excuse” on how people played games before and why played games before.
anyway not going to repeat again the same, i already pointed the 3 main reasons people don’t play other builds and why nerf anything (in this case hammerdin) will not make any change in the game.
EDIT: i’m still waiting for someone to answer the main question
What you will win if they nerf the hammerdin?
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a game doesnt need to be competitive to be balanced
where did you get that from?
there is alot to be balanced
being the only good thing is the very definition of OPness
this
spoiled players like OP think that the best thing this game has to offer is p8 splitfarm
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Plenty of arguments against OP, yet refuses to listen. I think we all know where this is going…
NOWHERE.
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wrong, it’s the very definition that there’s A PROBLEM.
if you nerf hammerdin people will not play barb by miracle, he will continue being useless trash and bored to play.
do you really can’t see the diference or you don’t want to see it?
all people and builds should be able to clear high player setting with end game gear, otherway will be pretty useless farm for nothing and this game will be absolute trash.
i don’t understand the people who want to nerf the hdn , enough have broken this game to touch it more any druid and soso assa necro ama can kill a hammer in pvp even a smiter is better now than a hdn for duels ,really sad, if they do something with the hdn will be another screw up of this “exemplary” company.
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Did you even read what I said? I said I would completely rebalance the game. That means skills, monsters and weapons. I dont care about one change to hammerdin. That doesnt solve anything.
This shows that you have no clue about game balance. Game is for 8 players in one game, if you have 8 people being able to clear 8 playser game content solo, there is zero reason to group up, game is joke at that point as you murder everything with few clicks. You call that good balance?
the point is not to MAKE people play x or y spec
the point is to MAKE people stop thinking they are at a disadvantage/advantage for playing x or y spec
may i ask you the same?
no
all people and builds should be able to faceroll p1 with high end gear
pvp has its own balance
the topic is about TZs and how hdin is overperforming in it