Tired of hearing people asking for "New runeword! New uniques! New Set!" And seeing Blizzard cave in and improve the runeword itemization which was already Op... what about making items that already exist good in the first place and then we can talk New

Good examples of why this would be OP, right? :slight_smile:

But sure, let’s add more power creep to the game, lol!

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Funny how before you claimed nobody would use them and all of a sudden you claim it’s op

Yet you still haven’t brought reasons and explanation of why you think that way

IIell very quickly ended up on my ignore list. He has nothing to contribute.

Beast runemaster
Leaf in a +6 staff
Lore in a crown of ages
Dream in a headhunter glory
Strength in a rare Eth fool CB
Duress in a black hades
Phoenix in a Jmod
Fortitude in a jeweller archon plate of the whale

most of these aren’t too bad. Grief in Rune Master is the big one. You wouldn’t be able to make runewords in blues, that would literally break the game. Make up a lore reason, that maybe simple Magic (Blue) items just aren’t powerful enough to contain the power of runes. Whatever.

Honestly, I don’t even think Rune Master Beast is that broken, compared to Grief. Enigma Black Hades will have a ridiculous amount of defense, but not much else.

But the problem isn’t rune in runemaster, the problem exists now… it’s grief that is broken OP

Denying the existence of a mechanic just because Blizzard doesn’t have the balls to do the right thing and nerf something broken is a sad way to handle things

But again you have to consider how nerf the values are after going through the penalty of doing it in a unique item

Pretty sure all the additional damage you get from runemaster will never compensate the lost of value on the broken “added damage” affix

LOL! No, I used one example, asking how you are going to reduce +1 Teleport by 70%, 50%, Etc. Then you went off on how easy it would be to reduce Enigma in its entirety. I said, nobody is going to do Enigma in Griswald Armor.

I never said anything about any of the other rune words… I asked you for an example because I knew some items would be way too powerful if you could make rune words in them. You are the one who ran with Enigma. :rofl:

Runewords in unique/set items is something I’ve often thought of, which is why I came into this thread. Nerfing Grief would put melees in a bad way, but honestly it’s a good direction for the game. Melee need help. Enigma is much the same way.

It would make very undesirable items suddenly very powerful and sought after. You could make “Enlightenment” in Black Hades, or “Treachery”. Fun.

“Oath” in a ethereal 4 OS Rune Master. Lots of cool combinations.

Yep, that would greatly widen the possibilities

It would make runewords a complement to items rather than its own OP category that discredit the whole rest of the game itemization

But I don’t feel that it would be OP just because of how harsh the penalty is. You lose of a lot of power, but expand the diversity of perks

There would be no point in doing it at even a ~50% nerf, except in the two niche cases. Griswald’s and Rune Master. IIell was correct about that.

If it was -50% flat Def on Armor and a flat -50% damage on weapons, that could work. But how would you convey that to players? “You can make Runewords in this item, but with -50% armor/damage?”

Nowhere I said 50% on the base, it’s 50% effectiveness of mod/affix

For some strange reason you just don’t see that your idea won’t work. In the long run they won’t even be able to prop up the items that you want them to prop up. And if they could do that then you are still using rune words instead of the actual uniques, sets, magic and rare items.

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so…by your logic… when you socket a facet in a shako, you are using a facet… not a shako with a facet

when you put a 15-30 jewel in a eth andy for your merc… you arent using an Andy helm… you are using a 15ias-30fRes jewel

Yap, and they could make the game 50x better by adding run / walk to most of the more melee centric uniques. I mean seriously, why isn’t run / walk just massively more accessible when we have lived in a world of sorc speed running for 20 years?

You said you can make a rune words out of items like magic, rare, unique, and set items. Now when you make a rune word in a normal socketable item you actually have the name of the rune word. If you are keeping the same idea then whatever two socketed helm you put Lore into and the name changes from the name of the helm into Lore then yes I am saying that. So you would still be using rune words in that slot. Now if the name doesn’t change you are still using the stats of the rune word to try to prop up the item. Can’t you come up with ways of improving itemization without using rune words to prop up other items.

I would love an itemization system where each quality brings something different to the table for each slot. With affixes that can only come on that quality of item. Where if you wanted to build a WW barb that scales damage with IAS and sustains through life and mana leech then you go with a different setup than one that goes with a scaling the chance of Deadly Strike. Another setup for crushing blow, etc…

As mentionned this is one of many things that should happen to improve rarity other than Runewords

  • item corruption

  • larzuk having a chance of an additional socket when max socket is 5+

  • crafting now has a chance to keep the sacrificed item affix

  • Unique class items can roll implicit skills (ie: (+1@3 to X skill)x 3)

Add plenty of ways that spice up itemization and items will bring out the awesome flavour it once had

Here he goes again. Proposing stupid changes and then insulting people for not agreeing with him. You make another one of these redundant threads every day and then wonder why you get the same replies. The definition of insanity is doing the same things and expecting different results. Ie: you are a crazy person.

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Who are you to decide if a mechanic should exist?

You cry about nearly every aspect of the game and want to change it.
In terms of your girlfriend comparison.

You don’t like her looks, her interests, how she speaks, so she has to completely change for you to stop complaining. But there is this other guy, who just loves her how she is. Why should she be with you?

so your oath griswold weapon would have instead of 240 ed + 300 ed just 180ed and instead of 40ias + 50ias just 30ias.
So you created a worse version of both items.

Why should anybody want that?

Your ideas are trash. You never even think it through before you post. You just spread your garbage and then you are offended because somebody calls you out on it.

Maybe you should just think before you post.

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Imagine having a hard time understanding the basic concept of what “placeholder values” means, it means that depending on balance the value maybe be changed

Also (240+300)/2=270 not 180… and path goes up to 340 not 300

Also even if some values end up equal or worse… you still gain some perks, you can add affix to an item that doesn’t have it… oath would give new stuff to gris caddy

  • bone spirit ctc

  • prevent to heal

  • heart of the wolverine

  • damage to demon

  • iron golem

Make it in a runemaster and it now is indestructible

so only items you can’t afford get the 1/3 penalty. You twist and turn but it’s still a crappy idea. It either ends in powercreep and those items getting BiS or they are useless.

All your posts about changing things are basically changes for the sake of change, not to improve anything.

I’ve seen a lot of change requests in this forum and most of them are basically just:

But I want it! :insert kid tantrum with stomping and rolling on the ground crying:

You sound exactly like that for me.

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Yeah they should fix the ~95% of uniques that are worthless. And they should be much more creative with item traits, like having items that give unique bonuses to skills, proc other skills, etc. etc.

But they won’t this is actiblizz and this is a lazy cashgrab. Get it serviceable enough to sell the box and then abandon it is their business model.

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Don’t know what is wrong with him somehow he thinks that his ideas are so great when they are not.

Heck I could probably make Tyrael’s Might competitive with Engima by boosting its defense, increasing the run/walk speed along with adding running doesn’t lower defense. All of that without having to add rune words to it or any other crazy idea.

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