[Suggestion] 2 new cube recipes

Hello mates

I’ve got an idea which, at least partially, can offset in general poor drops for magic items, mostly charms.

  1. Reroll prefix, keep suffix unchanged - magic item + perfect ruby + Ral rune.
  2. Reroll suffix, keep prefix unchanged - magic item + perfect sapphire + Tal rune.

Very often, when an item drops, it has only decent prefix/suffix - these recipes would help to make such item from ‘okayish’ to ‘nice’, or ‘good’.

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Sounds good!
If it has no suffix, only prefix, will it roll a new suffix right?
Not sure about its effect on charm rerolling, but I would welcome this for blue weapons, particullary ethereal blue Javelins.

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Exactly, assuming you’ll use “Reroll suffix” recipe.

let it be done by a new npc.
call her Myriam the Mystic.
oh wait its a D3 feature.
sry, we dont need it

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What is your point ?
Path of exile also have a recipe like that, Diablo 3, and you know what ? it is really a great recipe…

As for OP, as long as you cannot roll charm i would be fine with it x)

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because it changes the game and it makes items a lot less valuable.
People always want the game to become easier but its a bad idea. You kill the only endgame that d2 has to offer.
In D3 for example you have endgame gear within no time because of features like OP mentioned, but it doesnt matter because the endgame is to level up paragon and beat highest grifts.
D2’s endgame (besides pvp) is to max out your gear. if you speed that up by such features, you kill the game

No, this would be too easy to make what you want.

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Actually, the suggestion is inspired by Path of Exile, about Diablo 3 I’ve quit before introduction of loot 2.0(?) and Reaper of Soul expansion so I have no idea how mystic NPC and other new stuff works there.
Speaking about PoE, somehow such recipe didn’t make items less valuable, and also considering not all affix has the same chance to roll it still won’t be too easy to obtain what a player wants - ex a skiller grand charm with +45 life. It will be easier, though, and that’s the point of suggestion - make obtain useful magic items a bit easier, but not negligible easy.

I like ideas like this and ideas such as increasing drop rates slightly with baseline players 3 or 5 if they’re ladder-only and ladder characters are deleted at the end of a season.

This gives new life to a boring game in the form of ladders and allows the weirdos who want the same boring 25 year old game to have their boring game in non ladder, untouched.

Personally, I only play ladder and delete my characters anyways ¯_(ツ)_/¯ I’d love to see some big item changes and recipe changes, etc to ladder, provided they don’t affect non-ladder characters.

Well, I’ve written the idea because playing SSF entirely it just sucks to find items which could be made good by altering prefix/suffix, so definitely the recipe should not be ladder-exclusive.
And these weirdos always will have a chance to simply not use it, but grind to the death.

I’m convinced that the purists really want a real money auction house. They enjoy the economics of items, and their rarity, more than they enjoy playing the game. Its pretty obvious. Anyone who says the game would die if item scarcity was changed, clearly doesn’t understand the types of players who want the change.

Let me tell you straight up.
We. Will. Not. Quit. The. Game. If. You. Make. The. Items. We. Want. To. Find. More. Common.

It will in fact be the opposite. They’ll come back to the game, and they outnumber you. So, if you would quit the game over this change, I think you don’t love Diablo as much as I do.

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I liked the idea. I just think the items should be more “rare”. Tal and Ral are very common. Maybe Dol~Lum depending on ilvl or more valuable runes.

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For the better.

Not really, the crafting materials +basses become more valuable.

In this case op is adding a proven new end game activity, which I think is great.

Crafting is a legitimate end game activity in d2r.

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That’s actually a good idea

May as well add quiver recipes to the list

  • quiver+oil potion = quiver with “fires immolation arrows” & - 30% damage

Repeat the same with other throwing potions

Endurance-= magic arrow
Fulminating = fire arrow
Exploding potion = explosive arrow
Thawing& explosive potion = freezing arrow

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While this looks interesting it’s a completely different suggestion. Personally, I think arrows/belts should be removed from the game entirely as they add to the game nothing except needless micromanagement, and instead there should be introduced quivers whose can be normal, magic, set, unique - just like it is in Path of Exile.

Well @Sekscalibure mate, I think your idea is worth a separate thread^^

Just to clarify
D3 reroll mystic feature is more restrictive than this version op is suggesting bc…

  • its cost in gold will perpetually and exponentially increase with each atempt
  • you can chose only one affix or suffix to reroll, after that you can only try to reroll that same one

I personally se no problem with ops suggestion

Let me see, ow look a +3 hydra orb, with 20fcr, burn and yes 2 socks, ok roll till I get +3 fire skills (not even that uncommon).
Ow a 45 life Gc, let roll this it becomes a used skiller.
Shrunken Head with +3 skelly/+3 mastery, roll for +3 summoning (same goes for wand).
What do you say a Monarch of Deflection, feel a mechanic commin up.
Claws with 3ls/3ds hold my beer.
40ed jewel…

Could continue for countless examples, but I think every one will get the message by now.

Many of the mythical Orbs, Wands, Heads, Pelts, Primal Helms and other things will become quite easy to get, sure you still needs to do some elbow grease but those gems and runes are quite easy to come by.

Maybe this works in PoE, that doesn’t say it works in a game with a completely different itemization system.
Finding an item with half of the things right is not that uncommon, getting a 40ed jewel is 1 in 670, getting a 40/15ias is 1 in 34.505, each time you re-roll a 40ed’s suffix you have a 1 in 17 chance of getting a 40/15ias, so the highly sought after would drop from 1 in 34.505 to 1 in 670 and a few gems+low runes.
Problem isn’t in most items, just a few of the best ones.
You cannot only make okayish, nice or good items with this recipe.

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The existing 3 perfect gem recipe will pretty much be made redundant. There are other cube recipes that need to be introduced or reviewed anyway.

Hey there.
Please, keep in mind that Path of exile and Diablo 2, while they have a lot of similarities, treat loot very differently.
Diablo 2 has very few solutions to help look for specific affixes on your equipment. The best you can do is roll a random brand new item or go for meme recipes. It’s pretty much based on finding the stuff that you need.
Path of Exile, on the other hand, is made to have you craft your equipment. Sure, low level or intermediate equipment can be found normally, and you may have a lucky find, but globally, you are going to look for handmade stuff.
This difference in treatment heavily influences how affixes are treated. This makes magic items the best for certain affixes in Diablo 2, and affixes are way more likely to be top values or close to it than with Path of Exile.
Also, please note that it took a very long while for PoE to add this kind of recipe. They only added it when getting perfect affixes wasn’t the end of the item chase.

All this to say that, while the idea may not necessarily be bad, it is important to understand what you can do with such a system and what that implies as limitations. I am not convinced that its effects on how to get charms would be a good one.
That being said, putting limitations to the ilvl of the affixes it can get could be good. You’d be able to profit from a decent find by switching a useless affix to a useful one, although not top-tier.

In Path of Exile it’s perfectly possible to craft max affix. However, I see a point of

that should be good enough for runes Ral/Tal, just to roll up to say lv50 affixes - that should be high enough to create really nice items. I think the recipe might be extended to use some more rare runes(though not crazy rare), Lem/Ko to be able to roll highest possible affixes.
This also should keep my intention which was to make the recipe rather affordable for SSF, and encouraging to fiddle with the found items.
Nevertheless, a good note mate, thanks!

Well, it is mediocre recipe anyway.