Ploot is really about

ricedragon-1738 · October 31, 2021, 2:55pm

i LOVE LEECHERS. I go grief them via NPC.

IIell-1983 · October 31, 2021, 2:56pm

Could you show me that tweet because I do not see it. In contrast, I can show you hs tweet from September 16.

Your link is to a tweet saying, “Let’s talk about it after we ship.” Not sure where you are getting any ideas that Blizzard is still talking about ploot. If you didn’t know, Rod likes to open up dialogue and discuss things. That doesn’t mean what people reply with will happen.

MicroRNA-1507 · October 31, 2021, 2:56pm

I don’t. I just know what has been said about D2R in terms of interviews and tweets. Blizzar/VV have been consistent since D2R announcement that additional changes (e.g. balance changes) could be coming to D2R if the players want them in multiple interviews from multiple Blizzard/VV folks.

You also need to read the tweets that Rod responded from late August to see what “it” refers. I see that you failed to mention that.

Below is the link to all of Rod’s late August tweets in context.
https://imgur.com/a/6MAmMMP

9/16/2021 Edit: Loot Systems Updates/Clarification

If one inspects the image, there are two distinct tweets that Rod responds to. In the bottom half of the image, he reaffirms that Blizzard has discussed adding optional personal loot and that it would not be added at D2R launch. He further states that if (and emphasis on if) personal loot would be introduced, it would be at game creation and players would opt-in.

In the top half, Rod is responding to a tweet where someone is concerned that the D2 loot experience (FFA loot) would be altered in D2R. This tweet was 8 minutes after the other tweet. Rod assures that FFA loot will continue to exist in perpetuity in D2R and not to worry. This quote does not exclude the possibility of introducing optional personal loot later that is opt-in since the original FFA loot experience still remains preserved for anyone who wants that experience.

Also, it is noteworthy that Rod stated:

"if we were ever to do it we would make it an option for the game you create so that people have to opt in to that style."

From this we can conclude:

Blizzard does not consider the introduction of optional personal loot significant enough to require a separate realm. Blizzard considers this change insignificant enough that it can be set at game creation.

Blizzard also apparently recognized that optional personal loot would not adversely affect the trade economy and knows that personal loot does not lead to extra items drops in comparison to FFA only loot. This confirms that Blizzard implementation is not up to 8x drops as some have falsely claimed.

If optional personal loot is added by Blizzard, there would be no game where players would be using two different loot systems.

By having an opt in system, the old D2 loot system (FFA loot) is preserved for anyone who wants that experience.

![](https://i.imgur.com/wHku8A7.jpg)

Marius Trolle on Twitter: “@RodFergusson Hi again Rod, if your team considiring Ploot in D2:R. Please do timer instead, then both sides can pick up the item. Let say you have 2-3 seconds to pickup the item on the ground before it is visable for everyone else.But I prefer FFA like D2. Let the game stay uniq” / Twitter

Rod Fergusson on Twitter: “@NorXTroll Hey, first, I only said it was a thing that we discussed and if we were ever to do it we would make it an option for the game you create so that people have to opt in to that style. But it’s definitely not happening at launch.” / Twitter

Pugulus-1102 · October 31, 2021, 2:57pm

No there store page and advertisements say its a remaster thats it not a remaster+

“Diablo® II: Resurrected™ is a remastered version of the quintessential action RPG Diablo® II. Pursue the mysterious Dark Wanderer and fight the denizens of hell as you uncover the fate of the Prime Evils Diablo, Mephisto, and Baal, now in up to 4K (2160p) resolution on PC.”

Mith-1762 · October 31, 2021, 2:58pm

If you can’t tell the difference between “no ploot” and “let’s talk about it” you should just see yourself out.

Mith-1762 · October 31, 2021, 3:00pm

So where do auto gold pick up, controller support with target firing, controllers functioning as pickits, cold mastery nerf, shared stash, and a 20 character creation limit fit in?

Pugulus-1102 · October 31, 2021, 3:01pm

Gold pickup is not a core function of the game. controller support was added because of the port to consoles and cold mastery wasn’t nerfed it was fixed.

Temperfied-1296 · October 31, 2021, 3:02pm

If you can’t tell that by the time we get a STABLE, PLAYABLE game…that option will be completely off the table.

With new ladder runewords, returning cut features, and database/server/regional connection fixes/rewrites, by the time those are completed, PLoot will be a lost conversation that will just get flamed everytime it comes up.

We can discuss us hitting the lottery all we want. The odds of it happening are super low. And if you say “Well, then people will leave”…GOOD. We don’t want negative “change this, change that” people around here anyway.

IIell-1983 · October 31, 2021, 3:03pm

You also need to read the tweets that Rod responded from late August to see what “it” refers. I see that you failed to mention that.

LOL! So now you are going back to August?

When you find a more direct tweet than, “Relax. We’re not doing it.” Please let me know. Until then, Rod has officially said, they are not doing ploot.

K?Thx

Mith-1762 · October 31, 2021, 3:05pm

FFA loot is not a core function of the game.
Oops!

Mith-1762 · October 31, 2021, 3:06pm

Gold medal in mental gymnastics for you!

Coreander-2636 · October 31, 2021, 3:07pm

Again u rly dont understand. Get a brain srsly. What is core function blizzard decide not u. What u dont get? Srsly??? They define what the core is not u. Also it says its a remastered version not a remaster only. A remastered version can have new added maps and skills and whatever. And controller support was added to pc aswell.

MicroRNA-1507 · October 31, 2021, 3:07pm

I am showing you that it is not as clear as you think even for Rod’s tweets in August. I gave image link and all tweets in context.

ricedragon-1738 · October 31, 2021, 3:07pm

while FFA loot may not be the single core function of the game. Trading is and if there is PLOOT there is no trading therefore FFA IS a core function of the game.

Mith-1762 · October 31, 2021, 3:08pm

Ploot != BoP loot. Thanks for your support!

ricedragon-1738 · October 31, 2021, 3:10pm

I didnt say it was BoP loot. I said it kills trading therefore its hurting the core function of the game.

Pugulus-1102 · October 31, 2021, 3:11pm

Loot distribution is a core funtion of ARPG’s you can complain all you want you bought a remaster not a remake.

MicroRNA-1507 · October 31, 2021, 3:13pm

Ploot does not mean account bound. Diablo 3 has always had ploot. For the first ~2 years the game had ploot, low drop rates, and free trade with 2 auction houses to support trade.

In Blizzard’s first D2R survey, did Blizzard themselves ask about having personal loot in D2R? Hint: the answer is yes.

David Brevik, the original creator of D2/D2:LoD, said that if he could go back in time, he would replace FFA loot with instanced loot and it would not fundamentally alter the game.

Moldrin-21545 · October 31, 2021, 3:13pm

go play d3 and remove yourself from sight

IIell-1983 · October 31, 2021, 3:15pm

The “it” here refers to removing FFA loot at launch or afterwards. Please read the tweet that Rod responded to.

No. It wasn’t. It was in response to ploot.

“Take a deep breath and relax. We’re not doing it. I think it’s ok to have the discussion and understand the implications and expectations of other players. You’re literally fighting against something that isn’t being done.”