Players 8 for Online

You do not need to play a video game. D2R is not oxygen that is required to sustain life.

The key question is what is the sweet spot for the drop rate. Too low and the game is unrewarding. Too high and one gets tbe drops raining from the sky criticism.

This sentiment is accurate, but rarely phrased so well. Nicely put.

well my guess would be that, since so many people already have enigma just one month into ladder, the drops are just fine.

the rest still have 3 more months to do it, i have full confidence that they’ll manage somehow :slight_smile:

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What percent of those enigmas are the results directly or indirectly of botting?

Why so hate against px cmd online?

I think that people over-estimate the number of accounts running bots.
sure, there are bots, but it’s not nearly as bad as it was in LoD.

Also, i distinctly remember watching mrLlamasc doing some council runs live on twitch some time ago.

in ~1 hours he got 2 Ohm, 1 Lo and a bunch of other stuff, and he did it with a barb with mediocre gear at best, the only good item that he had was a Grief in PB.
and that was just one session, he got a ton of high runes by just farming the council in other streams as well.

is he maybe just super-lucky? well, possibly . but that shows that you don’t need to bot to get enigma, and on average, if only 5% of the player base is just as lucky as he is, then plenty of people should have enigmas created the legitimate way.

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Just for clarity, did you notice the same people who are against this in every other players8 thread added little of value? They mostly just called you a liar and bolster each other in their little echo chamber.

The one thing that was said by Zax is to remove drop bonuses outside the group, which is a good solution if the devs are hard against players8 in online games.

It still doesn’t hurt to ask.

I have. When some can not make a compelling argument against a message, they attack the messenger.

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People only do this now because it’s been debated to death.

At this point the issue arises where no new perspective has been given that hasn’t already been soundly defeated. Players8 online has been thoroughly dismantled as a terrible idea for numerous reasons in various other threads. So people just get annoyed with certain forum members inability to internalize the huge gaping holes in their arguments.

That’s exactly why nothing new is being added to the conversation, because the pro-/playersx crowd just won’t accept the inescapable fact that their idea is just plain bad for the game. Lumpus would know this if he actually read other threads concerning this topic.

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Well said.

But they will never admit it, so we will see another post in a week, with the same people and the same content.

“I want p8 because I’m anti social and don’t want to make an effort to find people to play with. The other people have an advantage because they do and that’s not fair because I want LOOTZ”

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These habitually asinine requests will die down once D4 is released, sometime in 2023 we’ll be free of this repetitive whining.

At this point I believe this small group of individuals spamming the /playersx threads have surpassed the ugly amazon thread count. I sure hope they didn’t complain too much about having to read those, because oh the irony.

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I am a professional gamer too for more than 17 years, I have friends online and in real life to play with me and I want the px command online.
If you’re against it, just don’t use it, like sundered charms and terror zones, it’s optional.

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Yeah sure.

More like a professional troll with statements like these. Go play your SP, px is already there.

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Why don’t you want px? what would that hurt your gameplay? it’s an optional feature, you’re not being forced to use it, and again, similar to terror zones.

Why would px be bad for most online players? Do you have any valid, adult arguments?

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It is not an optional feature if it kills group play and doesn’t leave public games to group and do content.

Same as TZ. They are pretty much mandatory if you want to compete.

It’s very simple. If the most rewarding way to play a multiplayer game is with a meta build in p8 solo game without any other people because you SIMULATE them, then it’s no longer a multiplayer game and it’s obvious why this is bad.

So I can’t wait for any adult arguments pro px. Until now, I only heard you don’t want to play nice with others but have the same and more benefits.

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I disagree. The discussion is typically civil with the exception of a few on both sides who mischaracterize, over-generalize, and resort to personal attacks.

I know that if poster x or y shows up, they will invariably resort to personal attacks of people who have discussed tbe topic in the past as well as new folks in the conversation that have divergent viewpoint.

I searched by username and the term “troll” and was appalled by how many times a few people name and shame a ton of forum members.

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Still waiting on any adult valid arguments from your side.

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IMO adding /players X online is a lazy way to add increased difficulty, plus it would clash with actual players in the game. That’s why I’d rather have a separate way to only increase the health, damage and density of monsters.

Bring on the Monster Power. Make carrying a Standard of Heroes boost monster health, damage and density. Then the number of players would work in addition to that.

The game has been out for 22 years, there are many vets wanting a harder challenge from the game. And yes there are those who just want /px solely for increased drops.

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Or a new difficulty after hell where all monsters are lvl 90, have increased hp/damage/speed and all areas have high density of trash + boss packs. No increased loot, just more challenge and more mobs.

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Meh, hell difficulty is pretty good as is. It’s doable, but challenging to beat with suboptimal gear. If you were to add a new difficulty, it wouldn’t be long before people started crying for buffs to builds and gear/ nerfs to monsters, because they can’t breeze through their loot runs.

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