You have a point, but it isn’t a good one, and won’t ever happen. Forum gold.
Ladder still going strong. Game list is packed with TZ and MF games. Crazy right?
The point though is that if items are decreasing in value, so are the ones you want, meaning you need less to get it. That is unless you are looking for like an engima or infinity. But those are super crazy BiS items that most people never get anyway.
Your shako on the other hand, does it make much of a difference if it is worth a Vex like at start of ladder, or an Ist after a week? If you want a shako, great, now you only need an ist ,instead of a Vex.
Using jsp doesn’t immediately mean you are a botter…
Using jsp doesn’t immediately mean you are a botter…
If you don’t know about bravata. I would just suggest/recommend you don’t bother. Troll/Clown or perhaps a troll clown combo.
The advantage for bots being that they don’t ever rest.
This statement is incorrect. In my opinion, bot’s advantages are that they are super efficient and they dont have to manually cast skills. If a person would run their bot 24/7 their account would get flagged and banned faster than if the botter would take breaks to imitate human behavior.
Maybe for a TAS bot of a game that’s had RNG manipulated out of it. For a game like D2, where the best a bot can do is run a script capable of adjusting to RNG, a human player will be more efficient. The advantage of bots is that they never stop playing the game in a literal sense.
This statement is incorrect. In my opinion, bot’s advantages are that they are super efficient and they dont have to manually cast skills. If a person would run their bot 24/7 their account would get flagged and banned faster than if the botter would take breaks to imitate human behavior.
Super efficient? Nah. Quantity over quality. Trav bot vs Trav person over 8 hours. The person wins if they know what they’re doing. But after a break and work and sleep now the bot has 3x the gameplay.
I’m actually not sure if bots are getting flagged on the 24 hour markers. I honestly doubt it because blizzard seemingly doesn’t care. Also I think any sort of default ban system was taken out after they mistakenly confused trav/pindle runners as botters. So a 24hour flag would be just as likely to catch a streamer or hardcore player on the weekend as a bot.
For a game like D2, where the best a bot can do is run a script capable of adjusting to RNG, a human player will be more efficient.
The person wins if they know what they’re doing. But after a break and work and sleep now the bot has 3x the gameplay.
You guys are on serious copium and remembering the garbage, incorrectly configured, public bots of decades ago. Private bots coded and configured by people who actually understand how the game works absolutely slay human players in terms of both efficiency and runtime. Unless you want to claim that before you finished zone loading from waypoint, you know the exact most efficient route to your destination node, the exact position of all worthwhile poppables, are constantly parsing all monsters within a ~4 screen radius, and can read/avoid each monster/boss attack type at the rate of your ping. Oh yeah, and you’re also always on a /players 8 setting with a synergized split farming group, can read the sockets, staffmods, and eth status on items from the ground and parse/trash bad rares and uniques the instant they are identified. Nah, on second thought you’re right - human players are much more efficient.
You don’t understand what a botting script can do. They all run a maphack, but the script still has to adjust to a randomly selected map for any given zone, and the same is true for the monster type and density. A human will always be smarter than a bot and therefore more efficient whenever RNG is a factor. For commands that will never change, executables can be more optimized to a task, but when variables are introduced, there’s processing time. The advantage of bots is that they allow a human to spend their time doing something else, they can also be run in multiple clientless instances, and of course, they don’t have to eat or sleep.
Bots aren’t and weren’t simulating P8 back in LOD or now.
I also used trav runs as a comparison because a MAP hack bot is different that just flat botting.
And no the new bots aren’t that crazy. Streams pop up of them all the time. A player can beat them, their error and issues are clear when you watch them too. But nobody can run 24/7 and on multiple accounts.
You don’t understand what a botting script can do. They all run a maphack, but the script still has to adjust to a randomly selected map for any given zone, and the same is true for the monster type and density.
The random zones are little more than prebuilt squares pasted together in a predictable pattern. The bot knows the entire map on load and can path to the end node way faster than a legit human player could seek.
As I already said, the bot will parse all loaded monsters at a range well beyond where a legit human player can see.
You’re the one who doesn’t understand here.
A human will always be smarter than a bot and therefore more efficient whenever RNG is a factor.
False
Bots aren’t and weren’t simulating P8 back in LOD or now.
False
And no the new bots aren’t that crazy.
Public, partial open-source LoD bots do all that I’ve mentioned.
False
Not false. Not saying that there is absolutly no bot that does it. Vast majority are solo games. You’re talking out of your butt now.
Not false.
Enjoy your copium, the truth hurts. (In)Active-Buzzard should ban the bots BTW.
Big Facts, I’ve lost Motivation to even play D2 because the Economy is Diluted with a bunch of items, I’m not the Smartest guy out their but I’m no idiot and I know for a Fact there’s a HUGE influx of Botting Ladder 3. All one needs to Do is type in Google, Diablo 2 R Bots. They’re even putting Videos on YT advertising thee Bots and then Selling the Bots Like a Subscription this Ruins the Game for ppl like me that Solo self Find. My Ber runes X3 found this Ladder down in Price My Shako’s X2 found this Ladder down in Price Everything is Down in Price… WTF is the point of Grinding out the Game when the Items will have lost all value after the first week… Because that One Super rare Yellow/Blue is Months Away not today or Tomorrow… @Blizzard Step up and Do something that was the whole point behind Closed B-net eliminate botting.
Enjoy your copium, the truth hurts. (In)Active-Buzzard should ban the bots BTW.
I’m not arguing with you there. But I’ve watched many of the different bots working. Discord streams, pub streams. They don’t do P8, not because they’re not capable it just isn’t a good way to roll. There is no reason to lie about what bots do. If you don’t know just don’t say anything?
They don’t do P8, not because they’re not capable it just isn’t a good way to roll. There is no reason to lie about what bots do. If you don’t know just don’t say anything?
So because you’ve watched some YT and stream advertisements for the watered down trash public versions of current subscription based bots designed to be a shield to take the eventual but incredibly slow ban-hammer, and in those videos no one is doing P8, means that bots don’t do P8. Okay then, enjoy the copium.
The random zones are little more than prebuilt squares pasted together in a predictable pattern. The bot knows the entire map on load and can path to the end node way faster than a legit human player could seek.
As I already said, the bot will parse all loaded monsters at a range well beyond where a legit human player can see.
You’re the one who doesn’t understand here.
A script is just an executable. RNG slows down how quickly a script can complete a task. A bot can read all of that data, but it’s not going to apply human ingenuity to resolving that data. It’s going to follow a preset of if/then commands.
RNG slows down how quickly a script can complete a task. A bot can read all of that data, but it’s not going to apply human ingenuity to resolving that data.
Pathing on a 2-dimensional fully revealed map does not require significant processing or human ingenuity.
It’s going to follow a preset of if/then commands.
Okay you’re right, they are just a text file of if/then control structures. Enjoy your copium.
This guys Speaks the Truth, Botting is a REAL ISSUE, BUT I don’t feel Mosaic should be Nerfed or done away with Least we forget the MA-Sin spent 20+ Years being TRASH… Playing Mosaic MA sin this Ladder Myself the Build feels really good. It wasn’t easy to build either. and when I first switched from Trap sin to MA sin I died pretty consistently with Crappy gear but as the Gear improved So did my survivability. I’m very Happy with the updates taking place and Bringing old builds back and none existent builds to life. A Primo hammerdin can throw out 18k Minimum Hammers With Virtually No monsters that can resist them in the game. That’s Higher Minimum Damage then the MA sin and Lower Max damage (Where is the Call to Nerf pally?). The MA sin Isn’t going to be a very efficient dueler the stacks drop off too quick the Build is Centered around PVE which they should leave it alone. FIX Barb WW and Druid SS for tele Leave MA sin alone she deserves S tier.