trading? also, at no time during any reset is a barb torch worth a ber.
people complaining about drop rates need to start trading.
if youāre argument is, āi cant find my own jah and ber to make enigma, therefore the drop rates need increased.ā to that i say, this isnt diablo 3, trading exists for a reason. if you dont like trading, multiplayer d2r isnt for you.
yes, drop rates are fine. You literally do not need āGGā gear to complete the game. The key is not to be jelly of wealthy players. Just play the game at youāre own pace. WHen the drops to come, it will feel super rewarding.
Nonsense, good gear is needed for PVP.
Good gear is needed to make lots of builds viable and efficient. Enigma for Hammerdin, Grief for Barbarian, Infinity for Javazon/ Light Sorc, etc.
Basic D2 knowledge.
I donāt feel ārewardedā when I get good loot because I know how many hours it took for it. Itās just time sink.
Hammerdin is viable with 2x spirit. it can complete the game, same with fist of heavens. Jav zon can complete hell with poison jav/Charge strike build, with minimal gear. Barbs idk, I havenāt played them in a long time.
You could try switching up youāre play style. Always open chests, and try killing monsters on the way to bosses.
Not viable at all, especially not in Hardcore.
How efficient is it too? How many minutes compared to someone with Enigma? Javazon is also trash without Infinity, mostly same for Light Sorc.
Builds are gate-kept by those items.
Anyways it is pointless to discuss I have a feeling TZ was just the start. Blizzard knows.
I wouldnāt complain too much about a small bump in drop rates. Although that doses not change the fact its rng, and people are still going to complain they canāt find anything. Our high runes are kind of like primals in d3. They take a lot of time as they should. Its not pointless. Iām sorry you donāt like the current drop rates.
I played path of diablo for awhile. The drop rates are alot higher, its pretty fun in tis own way. GIve it a try. Only problem is they are a little too high. Token could get you a ber in path of diablo.
There are plenty of good options. Just figured if there was an XP bonus in inferno mode and perhaps some way or organizing a more ideal way to MF in that mode then XP is solved and people can farm in their solo games if they chose. maybe make P1 inferno the same as P5 hell. Then they would have had all the time in the world to figure out the immunity BS. They should ahve reworked useless uniques/sets long ago and while there are a ton of bases, there is typically just a few that are worth anything of note. Should perhaps even them out a bit.
I disagree about representative. At this point in the ladder you can get better geared from free items games (you may not like them though), scavenging other people cows (you may not like that too). Not doing much trading seems somewhat misleading - for about 40 PGs (and dunno if rals are currency already too) you should be able to get full budget version. At lvl 90 there is no way you didnt manage acumulate 40 PGs.
Not at all. Im saying ppl have different experience depending if they use these third party website. U dont agree? U defend cheat for no good reason.
And some people arenāt going to play your way, too bad for you.
So u denying that ppl who use d2jsp progress much faster than those who dont? If u spend fg to gear smiter up u also can sell torches rly early on for a huge amount. Not everyone is dumb and dont know how to invest on proper things. Seem like u use d2jsp but still are a trash player
I donāt care if they do. The faster people progress the more the economy benefits through item generation to trade. Seems like you donāt use it and are still a trash person.
So u saying ppl who use d2jsp gets wealth faster and therefor have a different experience compare to those who dontā¦ xD
I progressed pretty quickly without making any jsp sales because I have friends and we help each other. You should try it, but before that you need to become a better person.
Itās not higher. Itās actually massively devalued compared to runes early ladder. Itās just more flexible. Like how we use dollars over Barter irl.
Its simple economics. U deny that aswell? Well u not very educated are u.
^What did I just say!? You canāt even spell a three letter word and you want to talk about other peopleās education. You probably think raising the minimum wage fixes the real life economy and you want to talk about buying power.
No im not. U missing the whole point but your emotions make u blind. I never complained about the droprates being low. Im saying ppl experience the game different. Ppl who use d2jsp or highjack games get a huge advantage. I alrdy stated i highjack ppls games. I find it dumb that i have to do it to gear up quicker.
Some ppl dont wanna ruin other ppls games or use third party websites. The game isnt supposed to be like that so u cant blame them for not abusing these. Its bad design.
Just like droprates shouldnt be designed around botters so shouldnt it be designed around using a third party website which enables ppl to bring wealth from a previous season. Or ppl ruining ppls game just so they can find more items.
^Says other people are emotional while being a snide passive aggressive malcontent that openly admits to hijacking other peoples games because no one would actually choose to play with you. Big surprise there. I canāt wait for your response mewling about being a āvictimā of the system necessitating you to be a stain on the community.
So u not using d2jsp means ppl who use it wont have benefit? Tunnelvision x20000
I have been using jsp, but no one bought what I was selling, so I traded in game instead. Even if people were building mega wealth day 1 with it, I wouldnāt care because Iām not a control freak like you.
My guess is bot ran 240 hours.
In other words u didnt get the point and spit out random stuff. What a fool u are rly.
Never said anything about playing my way. Im explaining that ppl have different experience. Are u rly that dumb? Nvm u are.
And yes denying fact and rather believe in your own conspiracy theories is rly something only stupid rly stupid ppl do.
In other words u didnt get the point and spit out random stuff. What a fool u are rly.
Never said anything about playing my way. Im explaining that ppl have different experience. Are u rly that dumb? Nvm u are.
And yes denying fact and rather believe in your own conspiracy theories is rly something only stupid rly stupid ppl do.
āYou donāt understaaaand. Iām just saying that I have no problem with people having a different experience than me while whining about people having a different experience than me.ā
So u truly didnt read. As thats not what i said. I said ppl have a different experience depending if they use d2jsp or highjack or bot. And sure i believe its a bad design to balance the game around the ppl who do these things. To start with its considered cheating and hijacking isnt rly a nice way to play the game.
Im stating that u progress faster by using a unauthorized third party website. Which some ppl are against simply because its considered cheating. U being bad at the game wont change the fact that it gives a advantage which is huge and ppl who dont wont have the same experience or progressing as quickly.
Im highjacking games because its efficient. Playing with friends is not faster than highjacking games. Its just efficient and i find it to be a bad design as ruin ppls games is beneficial. Alot of ppl are against it but thats how it is.
All these bla bla u got no friends etc is just u making up stuff because u lack arguments and just acting like a child. And yes adding a currency effects ppls buying power. Giving a currency which can be transfered between seasons surely increase it aswell. Again u rly got no clue what u talking about. I would recommend u to go educate yourself before u speak.
I progressed pretty quickly without making any jsp sales because I have friends and we help each other. You should try it, but before that you need to become a better person.
I dont have any trouble gaining wealth or progressing. Thats not what i said or stated. I claimed ppl have different experience depending if they cheat or not. And i dont need friends to āhelpā as the game is alrdy too ez.
What did I just say!? You canāt even spell a three letter word and you want to talk about other peopleās education.
Ppls native language or ppl not bothering typing full words on a gaming forum has anything to do with education? Are u a hillbilly or something? I thought ppl in the modern world have come further.
So u truly didnt read. As thats not what i said. I said ppl have a different experience depending if they use d2jsp or highjack or bot.
Im stating that u progress faster by using a unauthorized third party website. Which some ppl are against simply because its considered cheating. U being bad at the game wont change the fact that it gives a advantage which is huge and ppl who dont wont have the same experience or progressing as quickly.
Im highjacking games because its efficient. Playing with friends is not faster than highjacking games. Its just efficient and i find it to be a bad design as ruin ppls games is beneficial. Alot of ppl are against it but thats how it is.
All these bla bla u got no friends etc is just u making up stuff because u lack arguments and just acting like a child. And yes adding a currency effects ppls buying power. Giving a currency which can be transfered between seasons surely increase it aswell. Again u rly got no clue what u talking about. I would recommend u to go educate yourself before u speak.
You are claiming using a free market inclusive trading platform is more immoral than STEALING from peopleās games. And probably victimizing anyone that has the audacity to stop your colonization and theft.
Buying power and flexibility are two different things with currency.
I dont have any trouble gaining wealth or progressing. Thats not what i said or stated. I claimed ppl have different experience depending if they cheat or not. And i dont need friends to āhelpā as the game is alrdy too ez.
Then you have nothing to complain about. The entire community sees right through your virtue signalling thinly veiling you as a thief and an oppressor.
Ppls native language or ppl not bothering typing full words on a gaming forum has anything to do with education? Are u a hillbilly or something? I thought ppl in the modern world have come further.
You value laziness above communication and it makes you a dullard.
You are claiming using a free market inclusive trading platform is more immoral than STEALING from peopleās games.
Where did i say that?
And probably
āprobablyā stop making up things and guess what i believe.
Buying power and flexibility are two different things with currency.
Again u should educate yourself before u speak further
[Buying Power Definition (investopedia.com)](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/buyingpower.asp)
Then you have nothing to complain about.
Im not complaining. Im stating saying that ppl have different experience based on if they cheat or not. U surely should understand this by now.
The entire community sees right through your virtue signalling thinly veiling you as a thief and an oppressor.
When did u speak for the community? U suffer from narscissim? I use what the game offers. If its efficient to ruin games for others i will do it. I dont care about some strangers on the internet. However i can still believe that its a bad design that its being efficient to ruin games for others.
You value laziness above communication and it makes you a dullard.
Subjective opinion based on your emotions. Its common for ppl with autism to get annoyed about ppls spelling even on a internet forum. Plenty of other ppl couldnt care less though.
ā¦if drop rates are good enough ā how many people have built enigma before killing baal using runes theyāve found during the actual game, normal to killing Baal in Hell, on that character ā in singleplayer, where the runeword also is activatedā¦?
I will remind you that most people ā most of the 15+ million people who bought Diablo 2 only played singleplayer.
How many people have found the full Tal Rasha or Immortal King during the 10 hour campaign the game actually isā¦?
This is not a game with an endgame.
Itās a roguelike.
In roguelikes, youāre supposed to have a realistic chance, however small, of actually finding stuff.
A 1 in 200 odds of having the opportunity of building Last Wish in a game going from Normal to killing Baal in hell is fine, for itās genre.
Heck ā itād be fine if you killed Diablo 10-20 times just in order to find the last runes, even though thatās kind of abusing the game mechanics; Thatās arcade-like in nature ā that you, during a literal quest to save the world, can kill a specific demon in a specific place again and again with the same character hoping for better drops.
Not even loading a savegame prior to killing him ā but killing him again, keeping loot and experience.
Itās strange, in the realm of both roguelikes, and roleplaying games.
Itās more of an arcade mechanic.
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The current drop rates are insane ā the fact that finding the actual content of the game, the gear that never dropped while you played the story, is considered endgameā¦
Insanity.
Iād rather they added shiny versions of items with a 1 in 12 odds of items being shiny, and the rarest ~50 items ā and the best rare and magic item affixes ā got their drop rates increased 12-fold.
Iād like to play the game as intended, just once, and actually build a 1.10 runeword during the campaign, which I cannot believe was not intended.
I seriously think Blizzard North was completely out of touch with the gameās drop rates by several orders of magnitude.
Finding full tal rasha or IK in one gaming progress session? What are you smoking dude?
This game lasted over 20 years. You would destroy it in few weeks with suggestions like this. Everyone would be having good stuff super fast and game would become joke.
In one characterās journey to killing Baal in hell ā not one session.
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What am I smokingā¦?
What are you smokingā¦?
What singleplayer-first roleplaying games have you played where you have to spend thousands of hours ā AFTER FINISHING THE GAME to find the content in the actual gameā¦?
Imagine if mushrooms in Super Mario Bros had a 1 in 1 300 000 chance of spawning from a block, and 1 in 130 000 chance of spawning from the last blockā¦ after killing Bowser in the final level.
But you could keep that mushroom as you restart the game.
And if the fire flower had a 1 in 500 000 odds of spawning.
It is absurd.
I would have played Diablo 2 as a roguelike if itād only let me.
Problem is ā it canāt be played like a roguelike, because you cannot expect to actually find anything awesome.
You wonāt be able to make one of the best 1.10 runewords playing the actual game, the actual story, the way the game was intended to be played, no matter how many times you play it.
ā¦everyone would find shiny versions of items how fastā¦?
Exactly the current pace ā except common items would also be rarer.
1:12.
The self imposed challenge many of us do after finishing the game would be exactly the same for completionists, just shiny versions of items instead of the regular versions of items.
Playing the game as intended ā stop using the character after killing Baal in Hell ā would be far more feasible though.
They could make the drop bonus for first time kills for elite mobs and just keep track of all unique monsters ā and make it 100-times normal, but only the first time you kill a specific elite pack.
I mean.
I want to play the game with new characters ā but I have to farm for hundreds of hours to actually get the gear I want to try on those new charactersā¦
ā¦and thatās why I quit the most often:
I never find the gear I want to use on new characters ā gear that I have to farm on level 90 characters instead of actually playing the game with the characters I want to play.
Griphonās Eye, Deathās Fathom.