It turns out, D3 is more skilled game than D2

and where are you going to get xp, out of thin air? xp comes from the same place drops come.

As I said, party play can optimize both. not sure what do you mean by “communism”. Party found gear? Is that bad or smth? It’s optimal.

Are you suggesting that slurping loot and selling it back to a friend is the right way to paly?

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This has been my experience from the last 5-7 seasons

Wasnt talking about pl

Thats not true, wudijo and rax can easily get to 70 in less than an 1h. Im not a top player and my time is always around 1,5h with my dh

I dont know how you play too but for me 1,5h is enough to get to 70, leaving me 2,5h to get any set 100 capable, in my case as i always start as a dh, shadow, marauder, god or LoD is enough.
If haedric ia good, im able to start doing 100s in 3h
Not to mention that 100s are easy gr content
That said…every class is 100 capable with more than one build

Stop playing torment and start doing 120-130s solo for living

Me too…d3 inferno launch was pure tears bc of how hard it was

Well, he is not wrong
Getting to 99 is about 150h of play time solo in splitfarm games /8…about 5x that amount if you doing solo in p1…its very easy to play 700h of d2 for XP and not find a single ber or Jah as you are not efficiently farming runes

Is reaching 99 hard in terms of the skill required or is it time consuming?

Does hell baal get harder to kill if you are level 95 vs 80? Does Baal have more hp or better AI when a player is 95 vs 80?

Lol says the one that admitted to getting banned a couple of times in another thread. If u get banned then u broke form rules. U still have not learned.

Dude i warned u in that post to stop trolling/spamming the forms which u are doing. At some point ur going to get the permanent ban.

Ur already a known troll as well as stanner. U also have alt acounts u troll with. At least one. How do I know. U have an obsessions with the word “communism” and u used that word in ur alt acount when posting.

Thats a Dead giveaway ur trolling. I have now also flagged u.

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I’ll never understand the appeal of a game you can’t beat. Especially if it’s as repetitive and generic as Diablo 3

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In D3 you can have people run 150’s with you as a leecher.
Over and over for a few days and you will reach paragon 8k or so.

for instance, you have to not die in a longer time spam (consistency is skill)

your skill can also contribute to reducing the amount of time needed to do this

Absolutely no clue what this guy is on about, lol.

“You disagree with my opinion therefor you are a troll” is so overused here. Feel free to flag by the way, the mods unflagged my post because I am not trolling.

Stay in topic please before writing a novel about me (an Internet stranger), with so much misinformation (slandering) just because of my video game opinions.

Its not rocket science. D3 was made for casuals. You are a casual. 1 equals 1. Crystal clear.

So you like/prefer D3. Nothing wrong with that.

Still no idea why you dont play it then, and spend time on D2R forum in a game you clearly detest.
You like to argue or suffer on purpose :man_shrugging:?

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Implying D2 is some hardcore game and is not for casuals? Haha, I guess it is complex for some people. Oh wait, you take “PvP” seriously and think it requires skills? Makes total sense, carry on! :rofl:

Simple, because this is not D2 forums. This is D2R forums. A live service game that got changes and will get more changes once it gets more stable. Makes sense don’t it?

No idea why you are here and not in D2LoD forums.

D2 has depth that D3 lacks. D3 is equip set read what skills it enhances use them Done.
No mechanics or breakpoints to take care of, no need to plan where to spent points during leveling/mfing/pvp/pvm endgame. Its just bland always rerorable. D3 is not RPG there is no roleplaying or sense of character belonging to you at all. No attachment no semi permanence.

Now that to me is a depth, sure it can be more complex but it fulfills the requirement for RPG and that is enough, D3 does not.

And yes D2 PvP requires skill, especially in mirror matches there it is extremely obvious who is better, but you only work on hearsay no actual experience at all dont you ?

Yeah but you dislike: Ladder, PvP, Trading, Coop .
Is there even anything at all you like about D2R ? If not why are you playing it man ?
You do realize its insane to play game that you hate every/most aspects of dont you ?

I am in this forum because I care and I like the game been playing on and off for over 15years + online.

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  • Still both casual games.
  • Reread what I wrote.

Dont need to you twist your definition of casual to fit your narrative.
No point in further discussion.

If want to push it to the extreme there is no such thing as hardcore game or everything can be hardcore depends on your definition.

Still what you claim is false for general definition but w/e.

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D2… that “casual” game I’ve put 10k hours into. :stuck_out_tongue:

I 100% agree with your above post of D3 not feeling like an RPG. What D3 feels like is a single player MOBA where your equipment basically just determines what champ/hero you are playing. It’s just very generic. They could just have skipped character names entirely and just called you by whatever set you have equipped.

Frankly if I’m going to play a MOBA style game… I’m just going to play an actual MOBA. D3 just feels like playing a MOBA vs bots.

Even just looking at a bowazon on D2, which is a pretty restrictive build in general imho… how many different ways can you build it? Max Valk/Decoy, No valk, full dex, split dex/vita, full vita, WF/Oath, strafe CB/OW vs max damage, build around killing physical immunes with decrep merc procs, or an atma’s, 120 ias strafe or focus on MS/guided? Ect ect ect.

Kinda why I didn’t care for the 2.4 changes, all they really did was limit option to a more clear “best path.”

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To reach 8k in “a few days” you would need to leech about 7.000.000 GRs 150

I guess people really hate d3 to speak that blindly of it

Omg

Omg

Not liking something just bc you dont like it is fine

Its a lot of thought to clear the same 20yo easy content

Says the guy that’s PvP’d on the same 22 year old game that’s “easy” for decades instead of doing something modern/relevant/competitive. If you want a challenge maybe move to a PvP game with more than 100 people that pvp?

Actually lemme take that back, think I was confusing you with Harg. :stuck_out_tongue:

That said… what makes a game hard exactly? Mechanical skill or time investment? Some people like to cite Dark Souls. Personally I think the Souls titles are terribly easy. You can beat’em in a few hours. Once you know the patterns there is zero challenge to the game. I find it way harder doing a playthrough on an untwinked fresh barb than anything any of the souls games throws at you.

Maybe something like some of the harder raid content in MMOs? The again is that actually hard? For me the challenge was always finding enough people that could consistently not screw up. More of a logistics problem than a skill requirement.

maybe because every players who plays pvp in diablo now has also tryed a lot of others games, but they still love d2 more, because its freaking good ?

I mean, i have played LoL, WoW, RTS, some FPS, Soul games and more, and D2, tho flawed and imperfect, was by far my favorite game in PvP

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U can get 20k paragon in minutes? So far it took years for ppl to do that with.

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Now that we have established D3 actually takes more effort and skill even though D2 players are elitist for absolutely no reason:

In turns out, drop rates are easier than casual D2 too. Else, how would you explain that streamer getting Enigma/Infinity/etc. not just for himself but the whole team in like what, 24 hours?

you’re so predictable with your manipulation methods :joy: :joy: :joy:

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