How do you build you character? By gaining xp and loot that one finds, uses, and/or equips.
i was talking about the lvling aspect you mentioned
i can see the appeal and how some would find it fun in d2r
but i was talking aboutâŚ
i dont feel this is true
if that was the case people would just stop playing
so i think the excitement is always there, it may diminish with time and with experience, but it will always exist even if minimally
You gear a character with the gear you get from kills, buy from NPCs, craft, or trade. The word loot is rooted in greed. The franchise is not programmed around loot, itâs programmed around building characters. Kills provide a variety of items to sift through that can improve your character/s and trade in game. The loot system that spawned out of D2 is about buying and selling items on 3rd party websites - this is where the concept of being rich in D2 comes from.
Ladders, a decade before TZs existed, have had lvl 90s in the first 24 hours. Their builds are never complete. Further, the clvl 90s that crop up within the first 7 days of ladder reset are never geared completely - they are well geared, but never BiS i.e., complete. Most clvl 90s on ladder that are fully geared (complete), are characters that are equipped with gear purchased with jsp fg or RMT.
The vast majority were not around the last 10 years prior to the remaster announcement. Anything the vast majority may know about the game is based on modern guides. These modern guides, by the way, are not original guides, they are copied from player guides provided by players that never stopped playing D2 on the regular. The âvast majorityâ just do what theyâve read or heard. They donât play their own game style, they more often than not play the way another noobs told them to play.
Elite ladder layers and elite PvP players get their dopamine from playing the game. The race to 99 and pking. Gear is essential to play on the elite level, but itâs old. About the only thing that is exciting for the elite player gear wise is a perfect rolled rare or crafted amulet with all the right affixes. Again, the fun is in the race and in the pks for the elites.
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It really is not. Check the etymology and definition.
It really is. Take your own advice, check yourself.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/loot
D3 was horrid, they released it as an unfinished product! The only reason anyone bought it is because of Diablo 2! If the game had a different name, no one would have cared. It sold on legacy alone. I know that I wouldnât have bothered.
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Even if the first 10 million D3 copies sold were solely due to D2, how do you explain that D3 has surpassed 65 million players to date?
D4 is not going to be like D2 in any way. I accepted this long ago. It will be more like Lost Ark, and no way to trade or sell. Itâs going to be an arcade game. Maybe it will be fun, maybe not. Iâll buy it, most likely. I just donât expect much.
Yet, its a ghost town!
Remember, it was sold on Xbox 360, Xbox One, Ps3, Ps4, Ps5, Switch, and PC. Numbers do not tell the whole story! The game was a garbage fire upon release and is awfuly boring with no real PvP.
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im excited for d4⌠it means all ( err ok. rather, a large number) the people playing d2:R with terrible deas will go leave and play d4, and potentially tone down the drastic changes we are getting here. hopefully we can get some QOL updates instead of crazy game br4aking balance update like sunders
but yeah i have no plans to buy it either
High runes are pretty rare but Iâve found plenty of them playing on/off since release.
I found every high rune except ber/lo/zod this season. Three jah two cham. I also found a near perfect griffon. What people want and what they need are two completely different things. Needing something for what you want is not true necessity.
Ladder is kind of stupid anyway. The only real reason I play it is to trade off junk gear for a high price and funnel it into my non ladder character. I know I am not a contender for the front page of ladder - even if I had the time Iâd get blown out of the water by streamers with their roadies.
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I have mixed feelings about free trade because of how people use it.
Is it really so much to ask for a game that isnât corrupted by capitalistic greed?
I already addressed that, you donât make sense logically as to why it kept on selling then? If you are going with âthe bundle with WoWâ then that was only like 1.2 of total sales.
You wouldnât have bothered, many would. It would have done well, Blizzard can handle new IPs.
D2R is selling on everything today yet and still, struggling so much⌠Even player retention is higher on D3. And even if you take only PC sales of D3 and compare it to D2+D2R combined you would see the difference clearly, and even if you take another PC-only video game of D2âs time, still many games dominated more than D2.
Come on dude, just be honest. D3 did a lot, lot, lot of things right that D2R can use. Itâs a fact.
D2 was also garbage upon release when you canât even buy mana potions, and where people straight up imported exploited items from âOpen BNETâ. D2R also had launch issues. Mostly all games are âgarbage upon releaseâ new or old on PC that require extensive patching.
Absolutely no one plays ARPG for PvP but very few selected people, not even sure why this point is brought up. PvP in D2 is also miserable, unbalanced, many âcommunity rulesâ, more gear-dependent than skill, etc.
D2R is even more of a ghost town though, I would argue more people are playing D3 today even after a decade than D2R. Canât be just because of D2: LoD and âlegacy nameâ, can it?
Well Zahramar, feel free to buy D4! Jump on that bandwagon but the hype with Diablo franchise is over! In fact, D4 will not get my dollars!
I may watch mrll tear D4 apart though.
There is no bandwagon, you talk like I will invest millions dude⌠When it is on sale eventually I will buy it and play it for few hours or something, I am not taking it (or any other video game to be honest) so serious anyways. Itâs not that serious dude.
If you recall, console releases, especially switch, was well after the PC release.
I am confident that D2 fans are smart enough not to buy a dreadful game that was already out for awhile. Since that is the case, I still think you need to consider that D3 on its own merits is responsible for 50 million players (I am being exceptionallly generous that 15 million of the 65 million are due to D2).
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The thing about D4 Iâm looking forward too the most, are the D4 forums theyâll inevitably create so this forum can see a much needed exodus of malcontents.
I bought a remaster with a 20 year precedent, why doesnât it play how I want?
No one is going away, we will keep asking for better D2R. Youâre delusional if you think people who are asking for D2R changes are not hardcore OG D2 fans.
Original D2 ceased support it is the one and absolute only reason it is at this sorry state. People have been asking for many changes during OG D2âs life-time but thatâs what sadly happened. D2R brings opportunities so hardcore D2 fans are back at it again.
I bought a remake of a game that is a live-service game and is open to changes, why is it not identical to OG D2 when that game still exists?
Some people will definitely go away. D2R has had a falloff in players and forum posters even without D4 being released.
For sure, it has a very poor player retention and a lot would consider this remake a huge disappoint.
Thatâs not relevant to any of this or D4 though.