Are they ahead because of past FG or are they ahead because there was less time wasted on trading and they were able to much more easily upgrade their gear because they had access to a bunch of people to trade with?
So in that situation that player not only got to play more, but play faster and with a better build, so obviously they’d be past you? If you were to compare your own play without JSP to your own play with securing trades super quickly and upgrading gear super quickly the quick trader would clearly be ahead.
Now, I’m not saying nobody uses past FG nor that nobody has bought FG and uses it to get ahead. By far in large though most FG just circulates from player to player though. But regardless that Ber rune that someone paid 30kfg for day 1 of ladder, were you really going to have the items to trade for it at that point in time? It doesn’t really affect your gameplay if they got it even though it might be a bit lame. But nobody is stopping you from doing the same thing either.
bot discussion, bot links all over the forums, site creator makes and advertises the sale of a bot.
HAHAHAHhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
it’s ridiculous that you could even think people could believe that nonsense.
it’s ease is only produced by real money traders. remove the selling of items for real money, and there’s no logical way it could be faster than discord.
Don’t waste your time Bravata you’re talking to a person like this. Obivously it’s not a “biggy” for him, that the site was initially created with bot/dupe/scam guides (and still is) and the p2w it migrated to over 2 decades. You can talk with someone like this as reasonable as telling a Pirate that stealing treasures is not good.
Why lie? No discussion or download of a bot can be found on JSP. If you can find it please link. But you can’t becuase you’re lying.
Its ease is produced by a common currency, a concept you will never grasp. It has nothing to do with the real money factor that you pretend is an issue.
See I’m cool if you want to pretend people RMT through JSP at their ripoff prices. I’m cool if you want to acknowledge in the past it was a bot site.
But JSP never allowed dupes or scam guides on their site. It would also be stupid to consider it p2win vs actual RMT sites. Maybe it could be considered massively overpay2win? But really nobody does that and you’re foolish to think anyone would pay 15 dollars for a ber when they could get it for a dollar fifty.
I love to argue with you. Love to agree with you and I’m looking out for your health.
Don’t try with Bravata, he will simply foam out the mouth while typing the same thing for hours on end. He lacks any ability to see any logic in anyone else argument.
I did find it funny though that:
You cannot speak about it - the unmentionable.
BUT people can blatantly use them and trade - like an open secret.
And… the “Whales” have FULLY Automated(read: Bots) buying and selling scripts and Delivery “helpers” basically doing all the work for them(bots).
But… you can’t talk about it.
A blatant revisionist history policy on an otherwise good trading site.
D2JSP is Illegal and against the TOS Lets limit it to like 20 threads guys pls. You guys keep going over the same points over and over you won’t convince bravata that jsp doesn’t have rmt and you won’t convince dwarf even if you link him thousands of google searches that show people selling their FG for real money. Give it a break guys its getting tedious.
I don’t give a good hot damn what other people do in this game.
No my business.
I did preface my post with: “I find it funny that”
Just an observation and it IS 100% revisionist history to ban discussion(understandable because it could lead into MORE than simple discussion or be perceived as such) and reinventing their image - companies do this all the time.
Heck even Tony Stark did it!
Oh you think it is to shy away from the past? See even when they were selling a bot they didn’t let people discuss other bots or cheats or scripts because they were worried about someone linking a torjan or keylogger. I really thought it was just a user protection thing. I didn’t really attribute it to trying to shy away from the past because the same rules were in place way back when EXCEPT you could talk about D2jsp’s bot specifically.
That’s before my time.
I’ve read your posts and you obv have much more hands-on, in depth knowledge of the sites history and various activities than I do.
I was running my Schizodin around that time and dealing with~recovering from a terrible life event. This game was a distraction and coping mechanism.
I knew nothing about jsp, let alone much of a grasp of the game’s mechanics until '05.
Life was strange back then, the game was an outlet, not a focus up til that point.
Ohh way back when struggling through and not knowing what a good build was or what was going on was so fun. Thats a big part of why I joined JSP. The guides and info threads there helped a ton.
I’ve known about the site since around the time they were still selling the bot. I’ve been trading on it since 05. I know all about the “RMT” aspect. If you were on it and used it to trade and ever looked at a real RMT site you’d realize that almost nobody pays for forum gold to buy D2R items. You’d be paying 10x the price, to then try and find someone to trade FG for the items you want, when if you were to go to an actual RMT site you’d not only save money, but be directly delivered the items you want with no middle man.
I will however read the thread. But my guess is what I said will still apply after. Btw I’m not saying that absolutely zero people use bought fg and have paid for items, just that overall there are just as many in a percent using actual RMT bought items trading on tradierie and that small amount to me isn’t worth worrying about.
And yet you can do simple google searches to see people using the jsp forums to sell fg in the past. Kind of defeats your points. Good on you for reading it though it will open your eyes a bit i bet.
