That would be a logical downside for Blizz and ultimately normal users who experience lag due to that problem.
Lots of assumptions there, such as blizzards inability to automatically expand bandwidth for that uptick, the existence of bots as much as the forum expects, how they work today, etc.
I’ll be honest I have no real idea on any of that. I expect no one but blizzard can know.
At the end of the day I’d like p8 online. I’ve suggested in the past limiting it to non ladder. At least to test, to see how much it’s abused before ever allowing it in ladder.
While in the past and perhaps even now bots can handle P8. I don’t think any of them are doing it really. It just would be a huge investment of resources and effort just to eventually get a ban. If you didn’t invest your bot would likely fail more runs.
I don’t think that RMT people care one way or the other. Or Botters tbh. P8 command or no P8 command changes very little about what they do. Except they’d all proably run their bots on P3 or P5. Most normal users aren’t even able to efficiently farm P3 or P5, they’re not all of a sudden going to figure that out.
MB Whistan tele sorc can scavange HRs from poppables script; next to zero investment. Hammerdin exists, two spirits; next to zero investment. Bots absolutely would run P8, they already are via P2W multi-loading. Botters still don’t want P8 for the general population, because it will drastically devalue their investment and inventory.
Oh so you’re that a$$hole that joins games like “i tzone u baal” and then go into the tzone and act like your entitled to that zone even though the host and others that join specifically dont want you there.
I have nothing against P8. I just don’t think it plays in a botters head like you do. Nor in a multi-loaders head either. They’d probably want to get rid of the multi loading hassel. And a bot might be able to do P8 with trash gear. It wouldn’t be nearly as worth it when compared to running that same char on P3. Also a 2 spirit hdin in P8 would farm way slower than a meph or AT running sorc on P1.
Nope, they used their wallet to get an advantage. Some make ad hominems and strawman arguments in every forum post that mentions the /players commands; admitted multi-boxers are in this very thread “arguing” against it.
That depends on the content the bot is running, but when they can load clientless then only one or two of their characters actually needs gear. Examples: Chaos Runner + Leechers , Baal Runs. Poppables can run in tandem, etc.
Atrocious reading comprehension you have there, you must’ve been raised in a USA red state.
not against any rules, just like theres no pvp rules. people that complain just arent from the OG days of d2. there was so much more griefing back then that is non existent these days im surprised people complain.one of the big complaints that I agreed with is when you raided a game where they were starting from act1 or whatever and went and killed the bosses and screwed up there game
Making an argument against something is not a guarantee that they’re against it because they multi box. The only issue I have with players command online is that it will further destroy the game list even more than TZ already have. Perhaps too that it will make the server laggier because everyone will be in individual games and blizz is too cheap to keep those up. Though I will fully admit I’m not sure either of those 2 reasons are solid enough to not add P8 into online. Regardless blizz will never add it they already said so.
Again a bot running P8 even if you’re comparing good geared characters, will find less than a bot running P3 or P5. The content isn’t hard, but the speed and efficiency and fail rate woudl be off. You certainly could have 8 bots in one game, but changing it to 9 bots and having 3x P3 games would be faster and better no doubt.
yeah dude nobody is going to run a p8 bot, it would slow down there progress just like you were saying.unless they figured out how to run several players in p8 at the same time in the exact same areas, with a perfect combo of players is the only way that would make sense, and the thought of them figuring that out would make me a DizzyDwarf as well
Oh wow yeah if they worked together in those areas it might be somewhat valid. But I don’t even know if that would be worthwhile when you could just run P5/1 games all day without even thinking about it. The bonus from party memebers being in the same screen doesn’t seem worthwhile even in lower player counts. But that would be far too much effort, but honestly the way bots are right now, those guys put in effort. Their automation is impressive even though we don’t like bots.
Nah, but I’ve seen these same users posting about how they multi-box so I’ll take their own word for it.
Game lists it serves me is like 5% baal runs 10% trap games to raise player count 10% tz runs 10% hell questing games an 65% people trying to make bad trades. I don’t think it would change much.
let me introduce you to duping from 15 years ago lol, they had no reason to run p8 games together, all they had to do was manipulate packets in the game thinking someone was in the trade window and accepted the trade while someone was out of it cause the items in the trade screen were in a duplicated state already.
Dupe methods tend to stay private for fear of being patched, like every publicized method has been (granted sometimes they are public for several months at a time). Regardless, team botting has been a thing for many years.
Not to mention bots were still required because selling duped uniques and rares that clash and disappear is not good for business.
Yes, I’m aware of those methods. Many but not all of the known dupe methods have revolved around abusing the trade screen buffer. Hybrid runewords were created in a similar manner.
I just meant that you could be a mutli boxer, and still have valid concerns about a P8 command even though they’re personally abusing the setting themselves. Not even sure I want to call it abusing but whatever. Regardless like a valid concern about bots being more efficient in P3 could come from a multi box user. I would however assume that most mult box users who aren’t botters would probably prefer not to have to mult load all their games. They could now just BO barb load and chill.
There is a lot of coop in there that you’re ignoring. Not only that but TZ has trashed and separated the community a lot, so you already don’t get to see games. My point was that if you’re constantly making your own private games, you might be less inclined to go help someone stuggling with ancients. Though obviously that isn’t a solid reason to not give people the P8 command. I just think I would like to have a reason to look at the game list and be helpful, but I’d get stuck in my own grind and because you’re creating games and not searching for P8 games you’d no longer have a reason to ever look at that tab.
yeah I heard about that too but never looked into how it really worked except they somehow took out the runes but it kept the same runewords stats then just added a different one.I know thats where the name ITH came from like ITH blades cause it was a default runeword “name” put in place if there was a problem with the creation of a runeword or something to keep the game from crashing.It seems you know more about that then me though cause I never looked into it
You’ve never seen an ethereal hybrid / ith item because vendors delete ethereal items. You’ve also never seen certain bases for them because they cost more gold to buy than a character can hold. Selling a socketed item illegally stored in a closed trade buffer to the vendor adds it to the vendor’s inventory but the socketables are missing. Then you can buy it back and socket the item with something else, the RW bonus remains on the item but the socketables bonus is gone. ITH disappeared because the character scan/save process that happens when joining/leaving games flags them and deletes them. However, like everything else, they bungled the fix and putting in another valid runeword combination will not being deleted. Say hello to ‘Enigma of Peace’, a level 29 required armor with +1 to teleport. There’s your summary.
Oh I have lol, Ive owned ITH blades,Eth bugged armors and the such.I played in the OG days.I also know Occy rings and Wiz gloves were technically “legit” items with a bug from mephisto dropping 1 extra unique item than he was supposed to that didnt drop as an extra but would fuse with a different item that were deleted with the “rust storm” thats where everything got deleted unfortunately including .08 items.I remember white rings as well that a developer got busted somehow transfering over from open bnet into closed bnet.Which would be cool, I wish they had open bnet.trust me lol I was there through all of it…which i would call the goold Ol days
