How many topics about “p8 online” were created by Turlok?
I don’t think any RMT/Botter cares if the average users get P8. Most people aren’t even competent to farm well on P1.
I think many of the noobs think botters will switch to P8 games and get even more stuff. I don’t really think that works how they think it does. Bots spamming P1 games will probably always be more efficient than them attempting to gear up for P8. Perhaps though P3/P5 they would adjust to tho.
But honestly I never got the whine about MFers in a baal run UNLESS your baal run was going slow. But if that is the case perhaps those in the throne should do more. Honestly I always preferred the efficient XP left from MFers and that they weren’t there to compete for my drops.
I have not read the entire thread.
That Sir, is a choice.
If you are as powerful/almighty as you claim, you could host games, TP the group to Chaos/Baal (wherever) then go MF alone where-ever you want.
Or, you create “free-stuff” games, and go MF alone and drop the junk in town to the folks eagerly waiting.
Guessing both of those options require too much thought and coordination, so, you choose to ruin quest runs.
P8 not in game isn’t the problem… you are.
Everyone see it…
I think this would be a fair compromise, but only in solo online games for the difficulty adjustment and loot addition if you can/choose to take on that increased difficulty, as minor as P3 is TBH.
I disagree that it should be locked when at p8 with 7 other players in the game.
Read my part about few vs restricting many… You will never stop the few who want to profit or see the FG bank as end game.
Finding items in D2, green, blue, yellow, gold text, is an addicition that is a big part of the game for I would guesstimate, 80%+ of the player base, legit or not.
Yeah but the shoe fits on both ends. Why introduce a greedy mechanic and ruin multiplayer mode only because a few can’t socialise?
Because it offers more rewarding farming. That’s all the reason required. I can appreciate the idea that “it’ll kill the lobby”, but any real thought given to this idea shows that it’s unfounded. Barely any part of the lobby is dedicated to 8 players clearing anything together, and most /players8 farming is done with multiboxing or through invading game that seem like they’ll stay populated for awhile.
In the end, the opposition to adding /players8 commands to online comes from the same place as the opposition to more stash space or more character slots. It’s multiboxers protecting their investment into running multiple copies of the game at once for an advantage.
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…on P1. You’re not equipped for this conversation.
Again, not sufficient, cumbersome, meanwhile bots and other exploiters have instant access to P8. Why do you think you are entitled to my MF, even the trash?
You get back to leeching, I guess I’ll get back to listening to you complain while I do my runs.
How do you think solo access to P8 ‘ruin multiplayer mode’?
Why do you think extra steps to play alone, together, with strangers is 'socialise’ing? 
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You just said the shoe fits on both ends… Its not just about being anti social. Its also about playing the game at the same level, at all times. options.
These players multibox. They’ve made their own /players8 function for solo play, and that’s why they’ll deny you the same ability. People play the game together when they need the help to clear things. Players who can solo /players8 still play the game alone, but now they have to multibox or invade existing games, or as these clowns have suggested, created misleading games to trick players into waiting around instead of playing the game themselves.
It’s all nonsense, and these topics quickly reveal whose opinions aren’t worth your time.
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the irony obviously escapes you - so speak for yourself…
Take care
No it shouldn’t come to bnet. What they need to do is completely revamp the lobby system. They should add automatic matchmaking for Baal runs, mf split farming etc, which would be a true QoL update. It’s probably a lot of work, but good things don’t come easy.
Asking for P8 would be like asking for “players 4” in Diablo 3. It defeats the entire purpose of multiplayer.
Another ignorant assumption. I get your point, but you should really just use 2023 to your advantage and join a discord group and talk to humans.
Perhaps (in)Active-Buzzard should begin packaging discord with their D2R installation. Maybe even a loader that signs you up for twitch and automatically follows all of your favorite streamers.
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Or, they could allow /players command since as you’ve admitted there are wretched work arounds like your above suggestion and it’s widely obtained solo via P2W.
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Maybe I should try with wirt’s leg and a cracked shield.
Nah, give us /players 8 in all game modes.
I really like it in offline play sure wish online play had it also.
I know you know this, but p8 won’t yield x8 loot. It simply reduces the no drop chance, so really it’s like 90% chance a mob rolls an additional piece of loot, rather than like 10% chance.
I think rather than 800% more loot it’s closer to 150% or 1.5x. I don’t have the numbers on hand.
Botters wouldn’t have to all congregate in one game in order to reduce the nodrop%. Plus all 8 could all run the same area concurrently.
I don’t expect botters who have let’s say 100 instances of the game, to have 1 active bot and 7 leeches in town in todays bot environment. I would expect all 100 accounts to be running mf. It simply more efficient per dollar.
So allowing p8 wouldn’t change how bots work, it just increases the overall dropped loot by whatever that 1.5x calculation is.
A bot farming for 24 hour may yield on average 2HR. P8 would yield that same bot 3HR now, not 16HR.
If going for optimal efficiency, 8 bots are in the same game split farming, so they are receiving p8 benefits all in one game. If that’s how they do it, bots create their own p8. If I was a bot coder that’s how I’d run them.
Looks like about double the drops from trash.
You’d get an extra item from meph everytime, but it isn’t like you’d find a bunch more shakos probably around the same amount.
The trash and unique packs would net you more runes/charms/jewels/gems/bases tho.
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Another likely scenario is the overloading of the servers. Bots congregate in one game to reduce nodrop%… If /players X came and they all went to solo games with /players 8, that’d increase the load on the server 8x for the bots.
I don’t think Bobby K wants to pawn a yacht to upgrade the server capacity.
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The only consideration given to ‘botters’ should be banning them. Multi-boxer using botters as a shield.
Bots geared enough would run p8. Players geared enough would run p8. RMT people hate this idea because it devalues their business / investment.
No. No consideration for server load; (In)Active-Buzzard is solely responsible for providing server access capable of supporting the game licenses that they have sold. Instead of squirming behind your ‘but muh bots’ bad argument, ban bots.