so 1? 1.07 was single player only
I agree I really think Frozen Orb deserves some spotlight just like Blizzard. Even if they make Frozen Orb like you posted, it won’t be still good as Blizzard, but let’s give them at least a little buff to make them viable in highest level play.
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I think the casting delay is okay. 3% is still too low. Needs to be at least 5%. And the ice shards should pierce through enemies; I believe that was the intent.
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Frozen orb is strong, it has just different mechanic than Blizzard. Blizzard deal better with pack of mobs, Orb deal better with bigger groups of weaker mobs or with bosses.
You mean accuracy wise Frozen Orb is better than Blizzard. Damage wise, it is just terrible even with cold full gears with full investment on Frozen Orb cannot even run 8 players map properly.
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Hmm not exactly, frozen orb is killing bosses faster. Atleast that my experience, but maybe thats even or better with blizz if you really max your gear. But when I play with normal non bis stuff, orb is killing bosses better.
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Normal difficulty… Yes, the point of this thread is that Frozen Orb in end game is just terrible. Is Frozen Orb good as Blizzard in any way in End game?
No, not at all. It sometimes kill faster on small mobs because Blizzard accuracy at hitting is not good. That doesn’t mean Frozen Orb is good. If you ever played in high level in this game at 8 players map with Frozen Orb with full max gear, you will see it is just terrible compared to other Sorc’s main skills.
It might look pretty good in early-mid game as Sorc. But, I really think Frozen Orb does not deserve on non-spotlight position in end game.
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If you make orb kill as blizzard in p8 game orb will be crazily op. It would kill bosses in one orb because how dmg of orb is working.
I mean give me some numbers how much it should be doing so i can test it.
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And I am not even asking to make Orb strong as Blizzard, I am asking let’s make it at least VIABLE in 8 players map as well. Buffing it won’t make any better than Blizzard with full investment anyway.
I have tested Orb and Blizzard enough through single player. There are reasons why all the top players use Blizzard only for cold build. Because simply, Frozen Orb is BAD in end game that’s all.
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I think Frozen Orb is a trade off in having less damage in exchange for 40 free skill points.
I wouldn’t change anything, maybe 3% synergy instead of 2%, but that’s it.
I’d be very careful about reducing its cast delay, it may become overpowered.
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That is why I am asking for AT LEAST VIABLE in end game play. I am not even asking Frozen Orb to be strong as Blizzard. Because it’s gonna make Blizzard useless later again.
People are keep saying Frozen Orb is already strong. Because,
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They only play Normal-Nightmare difficulty, but does not have much experience in Hell difficulty, and end game.
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They only use Orb as hybrid build, and they don’t even play Orb in late game, if they do, that means they are casual players. Non of the top players use Orb in late game. They all play Blizzard, which is the clear proof.
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They play non-Sorc, and afraid Frozen Orb will be viable in PvP, so they are keep pretending Orb is good. So they can keep Orb weak as it is.
My suggestion is either give Orb with slight more synergy buff or make people invest more on Orb much more than 40 skill points to make it stronger.
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I dont think anyone should be easily farming game on p8 tho. If blizzard can do well in p8 games, it would be better to nerf it than buffing orb.
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match seller’s brain is kind of broken and just says the same things over and over. one of those.
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why don’t we just nerf Hammer, Lightning, Lightning Fury, Corpse Explosion, and Traps to be bad as Frozen Orb in 8 players map?
I know you want to keep Orb as weak it is cuz you are a Sorc hater. But since I play all 7 classes in this game, I see this skill needs some buff and I agree with Dbrunkski125.
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I dont care, nerf it also.
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You mean you don’t have experience of end game to analyze how each skill works in end game.
LMAO sure, i only play orb sorc for 20 years. I dont even like blizzard build.
as discussed, i play fball meteorb until i switch to lit… i argue that orb is better than blizzard. and doesn’t need any changes… you’re the insane one who keeps saying orb not efficient in 8 players MAPS. we have games, not maps, go play PoE.
I do have. But you have issue with certain builds being too strong in comparison to others so i say nerf them.
Please read again, who I posted to.
No you are insane at keep Frozen Orb weak as it is.
By reading “If blizzard can do well in p8 games”, you are not.