Because…it is? The 3% synergy bonus and limited amount of hits, particularly on large packs of mobs, is really telling.
Could possibly be fixed by allowing ice shards to pierce monsters.
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I play Orb. Tried to like Blizzard but it’s just unfun, unresponsive gameplay.
Yes you can play with orb that doesn’t do any damage in 8 players map period.
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you keep trying to tell us this, but there’s a whole world of orb players out there proving you wrong.
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or they are non-sorc players, and trying to keep Frozen Orb as weak it is by pretending they use orb as Sorc. So they still can feel ice tickling massage in PvP without any concern.
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What is wrong with you guys???
Frozen Orb is such a super strong skill for only a couple of skill points…!
Sorc is OP as hell, what more do u want?
Blizzard requires 100 skill points to be that good. Orb lets you play two elements with ease.
Seriously, what the hell?
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oh boy another Necro guy who wants to keep Frozen Orb to ice massage in PvP. I honestly think bone skills are the one that had to be nerfed. And ofc I play bone necro too for PvP.
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People who say orb is already in a good spot are usually those people who use it as a backup skill for light or fire immunes
Yeah as a back up skill it is
However as a main skill it needs some buffing like at least the synergy of ice bolt incrased to 5%
Or the casting delay removed
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Pvp? lol. That funny mode with no intended balance.
Is that the super strong pvm skill with only a few skill points invested?
Are u joking? Ok then please buff Inferno skill +400% too. There is and will never be balancing based on pvp.
Have a nice time. Simply lol. Pvp…
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Ok, try full geared Frozen Orb build in 8 players map, and tell me if it can do even half perform of what Blizzard can do.
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Blizzard was always easier to kill with at the start, once you figure out the tricks but I usually went Frozen orb/something once I had the plus to skills to make it 8p viable.
It’s a more precise skill so shouldn’t be hitting anywhere as hard as blizzard.
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I used to always play frozen orb since 1.09. Only recently I switched to blizzard … and I am staying blizzard.
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@op I expect they where thinking
- Orb - hybrid builds
- Blizzard - full cold builds
pretty sound reasoning
Gah I remember that the sound effect of orb got really repetitive after a while
Whooosh Whooosh Whooosh Whooosh Whooosh
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Its good for hybrid builds because it actually does decent damage with little investment. I also know of one pvp build where it does well because of that limited investment. And that build is getting a buff this ptr.
I don’t think Frozen Orb deserves that alternative skill position for immunities. It lost all its spotlight to Blizzard long time ago. Utterly ineffective in 8 players map even with full cold gears.
Meh, Frozen Orb always have been ice tickling massage in PvP even with fully invested skill points and cold gears. I think people who never play Sorceress does not want to see Frozen Orb is a viable skill in PvP.
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I had a lv 87 Blizzard + Fire Ball sorceress in D2 LoD.
Now I’ve a Frozen Orb + Chain Lighnting lv 88 sorceress in D2R.
Differences (Blizzard skill may have changed with D2R, didn’t test):
- Blizzard could hit through certain walls, Frozen Orb could not
- Blizzard damage would register only when enemy would move
- Blizzard has a higher toll on skill points, because of synergies (100 points for maxed Blizzard)
- Frozen Orb has a low cost in skill points (60 points)
- Frozen Orb is faster
- Frozen Orb has higher reach/AoE
Personally, for a dual elemental sorceress Frozen Orb is better.
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I usually did the same 85-90 I would switch over to orb when I have the supporting items. Much smoother killing rate.
At least in d2r we can reduce the sound effects and combat effects without losing the music volume. I have mine set a little bit lower just because I find the whooshy-swish annoying too. It’s not so bad when it’s not super loud.
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They added synergies. Back in the day you could max static field and blitz the entire screen down to nothing then finish off with orb or whatever you felt like lol.
Completely agree and as I mentioned here Comprehensive Feedback to Patch 2.4 Balance, I really think Frozen Orb needs the following changes:
- Frozen Orb casting delay removed and slight increase to damage by increasing Ice Bolt synergy from 2% to 3% per level (this is a really missed opportunity to make Frozen Orb more competitive vs. Blizzard)
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