Problemas de fps, freezeos y graficos

Hola, bueno, lo hare corto, ayer podia jugar genial, el juego siempre me ha andado perfecto en mi computador, ningun problema, hoy todo fue diferente, perdidas de fps, algunas texturas no se cargaban, el juego se ve horrible y he jugado el nuevo warsong, esta muy lindo y todo, pero estoy a 20 fps dentro de ese bg cuando antes tenia siempre sobre 70, algo hicieron, algo cambiaron al juego que de un dia para otro comence y no solo yo con problemas, pueden guiarnos y ayudarnos a solucionar esto ya que no puede ser que cambie tanto el juego de un dia para otro, sin mencionar que hoy el juego se me cerro varias veces, luego no pude volver, vi un post sobre poner el dx11 legacy, hice eso y pude entrar pero tenia un delay de interface horrible, movia la camara y era lento, porfavor ayudenme!

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Agrego que hoy al jugar un par de arenas, bajar los graficos a 4 cuando jamas los habia tenido que poner ahi, me pasa igual, lag al mover la camara o al saltar se pone lento, tambien debo decir que de 5 arenas 3v3, solo en 3 arenas podia ver a los otros 2 compañeros, en algunas solo veia 1 solo y cuando la arena comenzaba podia ver al 3ero, alguna respuesta? tendre que dejar de jugar wow gracias a este parche? llevo 14 años jugando, nunca he tenido un problema y desde este parche para mi wow murio :frowning:

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Cual sistema operativo estan usando? En caso que es Windows 7 y es un portátil / laptop si estamos investigando algunos problemas de rendimiento y de lo que dicen suena como están afectado por el mismo problema.

win 10 x64 y es portatil

Intel I5 7300HQ 2.50 Ghz
Nvidia GTX 1050 2 Ghz
8 Ghz DDR4 2400 Mhz
256 Gb SSD m.3

crees que deberia tener esos problemas? si antes del parche me funcionaba perfecto!

Para los reportes de Windows 10 normalmente es algo con controladores o la configuración. Hemos probado actualizando de Windows 7 a Windows 10 y el problema de fps si se arreglo. Probamos los controladores por ahora.

Controladores se pueden bajar desde esta pagina: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=es-mx

Durante el proceso elige la opción personalizado:

Asegura que eliges la opción de realizar una instalación limpia:

Hice eso apenas me respondiste y no mejoro, pero debo decir que algo paso hoy que esta de maravilla, puedo jugar con los detalles en 8 o 9 facilmente sin bajar de los 60 fps asi que gracias a lo que hayan hecho, ahora he vuelto a amar a wow asi de lindo! sin problemas aunque me ha salido uno que otro error 132

Me alegor saber que ahora corre mejor. Para el error 132 deje un comentario en el tema sobre ese error. Por si no lo haz visto:

Dirfeen: Desactiva el Overlay de Discord. Se ve que esta corriendo durante el tiempo del error.

Creo que solo duró una semana, todo bien hasta hoy, perdida de fps, bueno, lo mismo que tenia al principio, estaba enamorado con volver a jugar de maravilla sobre los 70 fps con una calidad de graficos hermosos pero ahora volvio a ser lo mismo que despues del parche, algo estan haciendole al juego, porfavor

System Information
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      Time of this report: 3/28/2019, 16:59:06
             Machine name: DESKTOP-UEIN6OF
               Machine Id: {82595573-CE08-4E48-9DDF-74C1B2C04116}
         Operating System: Windows 10 Home Single Language 64-bit (10.0, Build 17763) (17763.rs5_release.180914-1434)
                 Language: Spanish (Regional Setting: Spanish)
      System Manufacturer: LENOVO
             System Model: 80WK
                     BIOS: 4KCN40WW (type: UEFI)
                Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7300HQ CPU @ 2.50GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.5GHz
                   Memory: 8192MB RAM
      Available OS Memory: 8084MB RAM
                Page File: 10527MB used, 1652MB available
              Windows Dir: C:\Windows
          DirectX Version: DirectX 12
      DX Setup Parameters: Not found
         User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
       System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
          DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
                 Miracast: Available, with HDCP
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Supported
           DxDiag Version: 10.00.17763.0001 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
      Display Tab 2: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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           Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics 630
        Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
           Chip type: Intel(R) HD Graphics Family
            DAC type: Internal
         Device Type: Full Device (POST)
          Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_591B&SUBSYS_39D117AA&REV_04
       Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER] 
 Device Problem Code: No Problem
 Driver Problem Code: Unknown
      Display Memory: 4170 MB
    Dedicated Memory: 128 MB
       Shared Memory: 4042 MB
        Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (59Hz)
         HDR Support: Not Supported
    Display Topology: Internal
 Display Color Space: DXGI_COLOR_SPACE_RGB_FULL_G22_NONE_P709
     Color Primaries: Red(0.645508,0.336914), Green(0.328125,0.615234), Blue(0.146484,0.055664), White Point(0.313477,0.329102)
   Display Luminance: Min Luminance = 0.500000, Max Luminance = 270.000000, MaxFullFrameLuminance = 270.000000
        Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
       Monitor Model: S22F350
          Monitor Id: SAM0D1A
         Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
         Output Type: HDMI
Monitor Capabilities: HDR Not Supported
Display Pixel Format: DISPLAYCONFIG_PIXELFORMAT_32BPP
      Advanced Color: Not Supported
         Driver Name: C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\igdlh64.inf_amd64_8a9535cd18c90bc3\igdumdim64.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\igdlh64.inf_amd64_8a9535cd18c90bc3\igd10iumd64.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\igdlh64.inf_amd64_8a9535cd18c90bc3\igd10iumd64.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\igdlh64.inf_amd64_8a9535cd18c90bc3\igd12umd64.dll
 Driver File Version: 25.20.0100.6323 (English)
      Driver Version: 25.20.100.6323
         DDI Version: 12
      Feature Levels: 12_1,12_0,11_1,11_0,10_1,10_0,9_3,9_2,9_1
        Driver Model: WDDM 2.5
 Graphics Preemption: Triangle
  Compute Preemption: Thread
            Miracast: Supported
 Hybrid Graphics GPU: Integrated
      Power P-states: Not Supported
      Virtualization: Paravirtualization 
          Block List: No Blocks
  Catalog Attributes: Universal:False Declarative:False 
   Driver Attributes: Final Retail
    Driver Date/Size: 17-11-2018 21:00:00, 2352408 bytes
         WHQL Logo'd: Yes
     WHQL Date Stamp: Unknown
   Device Identifier: {D7B78E66-1A5B-11CF-A96C-B519BFC2D435}
           Vendor ID: 0x8086
           Device ID: 0x591B
           SubSys ID: 0x39D117AA
         Revision ID: 0x0004
  Driver Strong Name: oem7.inf:5f63e53499417f2d:iKBLD_w10_DS:25.20.100.6323:pci\ven_8086&dev_591b
      Rank Of Driver: 00D12001
         Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeWMV9_C ModeVC1_C 
         DXVA2 Modes: DXVA2_ModeMPEG2_VLD  DXVA2_ModeMPEG2_IDCT  DXVA2_ModeVC1_D2010  DXVA2_ModeWMV9_IDCT  DXVA2_ModeVC1_IDCT  DXVA2_ModeH264_VLD_NoFGT  DXVA2_ModeH264_VLD_Stereo_Progressive_NoFGT  DXVA2_ModeH264_VLD_Stereo_NoFGT  DXVA2_ModeH264_VLD_Multiview_NoFGT  DXVA2_ModeVP8_VLD  DXVA2_ModeHEVC_VLD_Main  DXVA2_ModeHEVC_VLD_Main10  DXVA2_ModeVP9_VLD_Profile0  DXVA2_ModeVP9_VLD_10bit_Profile2  
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                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
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                     {BF752EF6-8CC4-457A-BE1B-08BD1CAEEE9F}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_EdgeFiltering 
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend 
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                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend 
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                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend 
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                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend 
                     {BF752EF6-8CC4-457A-BE1B-08BD1CAEEE9F}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_EdgeFiltering 
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                     {BF752EF6-8CC4-457A-BE1B-08BD1CAEEE9F}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_EdgeFiltering 
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                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend 
        D3D9 Overlay: Supported
             DXVA-HD: Supported
        DDraw Status: Enabled
          D3D Status: Enabled
          AGP Status: Enabled
       MPO MaxPlanes: 3
            MPO Caps: RGB,YUV,BILINEAR,HIGH_FILTER,STRETCH_YUV,STRETCH_RGB,IMMEDIATE,HDR (MPO3)
         MPO Stretch: 5.000X - 0.334X
     MPO Media Hints: colorspace Conversion 
         MPO Formats: NV12,YUY2,R16G16B16A16_FLOAT,R10G10B10A2_UNORM,R8G8B8A8_UNORM,B8G8R8A8_UNORM
    PanelFitter Caps: RGB,YUV,BILINEAR,HIGH_FILTER,STRETCH_YUV,STRETCH_RGB,IMMEDIATE,HDR (MPO3)
 PanelFitter Stretch: 5.000X - 0.334X

           Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
        Manufacturer: NVIDIA
           Chip type: GeForce GTX 1050
            DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
         Device Type: Render-Only Device
          Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1C8D&SUBSYS_39D117AA&REV_A1
       Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER] 
 Device Problem Code: No Problem
 Driver Problem Code: Unknown
      Display Memory: 6021 MB
    Dedicated Memory: 1979 MB
       Shared Memory: 4042 MB
        Current Mode: Unknown
         HDR Support: Unknown
    Display Topology: Unknown
 Display Color Space: Unknown
     Color Primaries: Unknown
   Display Luminance: Unknown
         Driver Name: C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvlti.inf_amd64_c76e6fcd108a9f7d\nvldumdx.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvlti.inf_amd64_c76e6fcd108a9f7d\nvldumdx.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvlti.inf_amd64_c76e6fcd108a9f7d\nvldumdx.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvlti.inf_amd64_c76e6fcd108a9f7d\nvldumdx.dll
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         DDI Version: 12
      Feature Levels: 12_1,12_0,11_1,11_0,10_1,10_0,9_3,9_2,9_1
        Driver Model: WDDM 2.5
 Graphics Preemption: Pixel
  Compute Preemption: Dispatch
            Miracast: Not Supported by Graphics driver
 Hybrid Graphics GPU: Discrete
      Power P-states: Not Supported
      Virtualization: Paravirtualization 
          Block List: No Blocks
  Catalog Attributes: Universal:False Declarative:False 
   Driver Attributes: Final Retail
    Driver Date/Size: 28-02-2019 21:00:00, 957824 bytes
         WHQL Logo'd: Yes
     WHQL Date Stamp: Unknown
   Device Identifier: Unknown
           Vendor ID: 0x10DE
           Device ID: 0x1C8D
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      Rank Of Driver: 00D10001
         Video Accel: Unknown
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      Deinterlace Caps: n/a
        D3D9 Overlay: Unknown
             DXVA-HD: Unknown
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          D3D Status: Enabled
          AGP Status: Enabled
       MPO MaxPlanes: 0
            MPO Caps: Not Supported
         MPO Stretch: Not Supported
     MPO Media Hints: Not Supported
         MPO Formats: Not Supported
    PanelFitter Caps: Not Supported
 PanelFitter Stretch: Not Supported

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Sound Devices
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            Description: Altavoces (USB Headphone Set)
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: USB\VID_0C76&PID_1607&REV_0100&MI_00
        Manufacturer ID: 65535
             Product ID: 65535
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: USBAUDIO.sys
         Driver Version: 10.00.17763.0001 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 14-09-2018 0:00:00, 191488 bytes
            Other Files: 
        Driver Provider: Microsoft
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

            Description: Altavoces (Realtek High Definition Audio)
 Default Sound Playback: No
 Default Voice Playback: No
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0235&SUBSYS_17AA3844&REV_1000
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.8555 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 16-10-2018 0:00:00, 6410288 bytes
            Other Files: 
        Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
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            Description: Micrófono (USB Headphone Set)
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: USBAUDIO.sys
         Driver Version: 10.00.17763.0001 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 9/15/2018 04:28:15, 191488 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x1
           Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

            Description: Varios micrófonos (Realtek High Definition Audio)
  Default Sound Capture: No
  Default Voice Capture: No
            Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.8555 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 10/18/2018 01:08:16, 6410288 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x1
           Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

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Video Capture Devices
Number of Devices: 1
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           FriendlyName: EasyCamera
               Category: Camera
           SymbolicLink: \\?\usb#vid_04f2&pid_b57e&mi_00#6&819aaaa&0&0000#{e5323777-f976-4f5b-9b55-b94699c46e44}\global
               Location: Front
               Rotation: 0
           Manufacturer: Chicony Electronics Co.,Ltd.
             HardwareID: USB\VID_04F2&PID_B57E&REV_8740&MI_00,USB\VID_04F2&PID_B57E&MI_00
             DriverDesc: EasyCamera
         DriverProvider: Realtek
          DriverVersion: 10.0.15063.11299
      DriverDateEnglish: 10/11/2017 00:00:00
    DriverDateLocalized: 11-10-2017 0:00:00
                Service: rtsuvc
                  Class: Camera
          DevNodeStatus: 180200A[DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER]
            ContainerId: {00000000-0000-0000-FFFF-FFFFFFFFFFFF}
            ProblemCode: No Problem
  BusReportedDeviceDesc: EasyCamera
                 Parent: USB\VID_04F2&PID_B57E\0001
      DriverProblemDesc: n/a
           UpperFilters: n/a
           LowerFilters: n/a
                  Stack: \Driver\ksthunk,\Driver\rtsuvc,\Driver\ACPI,\Driver\usbccgp
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    CustomCaptureSource: n/a
  DependentStillCapture: n/a
     EnablePlatformDMFT: n/a
              DMFTChain: n/a
 EnableDshowRedirection: n/a
     FrameServerEnabled: n/a
        AnalogProviders: n/a
             ProfileIDs: n/a

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DirectInput Devices
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      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Teclado
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: USB Headphone Set
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x0C76, 0x1607
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Gaming Keyboard G213
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC336
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Gaming Keyboard G213
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC336
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Gaming Mouse G600
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC24A
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Gaming Keyboard G213
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC336
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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USB Devices
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+ Concentrador raíz USB (USB 3.0)
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0xA12F
| Matching Device ID: USB\ROOT_HUB30
| Service: USBHUB3
| Driver: USBHUB3.SYS, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 586552 bytes
| 
+-+ Dispositivo compuesto USB
| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC24A
| | Location: Port_#0002.Hub_#0001
| | Matching Device ID: USB\COMPOSITE
| | Service: usbccgp
| | Driver: usbccgp.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 179000 bytes
| | 
| +-+ Dispositivo de entrada USB
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC24A
| | | Location: 0000.0014.0000.002.000.000.000.000.000
| | | Matching Device ID: USB\Class_03&SubClass_01
| | | Service: HidUsb
| | | Driver: hidusb.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 43520 bytes
| | | Driver: hidclass.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 209920 bytes
| | | Driver: hidparse.sys, 3/13/2019 01:36:58, 46080 bytes
| | | 
| | +-+ Logitech Gaming Mouse G600
| | | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC24A
| | | | Matching Device ID: hid\vid_046d&pid_c24a&mi_00
| | | | Lower Filters: LGSHidFilt
| | | | Service: mouhid
| | | | Driver: LGSHidFilt.Sys, 5/7/2018 04:33:36, 64280 bytes
| | | | Driver: mouhid.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 34816 bytes
| | | | Driver: mouclass.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 61240 bytes
| | | | Driver: LkmdfCoInst.dll, 5/7/2018 04:33:36, 1843480 bytes
| | | 
| +-+ Dispositivo de entrada USB
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC24A
| | | Location: 0000.0014.0000.002.000.000.000.000.000
| | | Matching Device ID: USB\Class_03
| | | Service: HidUsb
| | | Driver: hidusb.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 43520 bytes
| | | Driver: hidclass.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 209920 bytes
| | | Driver: hidparse.sys, 3/13/2019 01:36:58, 46080 bytes
| | | 
| | +-+ Dispositivo de teclado HID
| | | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC24A
| | | | Matching Device ID: HID_DEVICE_SYSTEM_KEYBOARD
| | | | Service: kbdhid
| | | | Driver: kbdhid.sys, 3/13/2019 01:36:58, 44544 bytes
| | | | Driver: kbdclass.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 67896 bytes
| | 
+-+ Dispositivo compuesto USB
| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC336
| | Location: Port_#0003.Hub_#0001
| | Matching Device ID: USB\COMPOSITE
| | Service: usbccgp
| | Driver: usbccgp.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 179000 bytes
| | 
| +-+ Dispositivo de entrada USB
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC336
| | | Location: 0000.0014.0000.003.000.000.000.000.000
| | | Matching Device ID: USB\Class_03&SubClass_01
| | | Service: HidUsb
| | | Driver: hidusb.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 43520 bytes
| | | Driver: hidclass.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 209920 bytes
| | | Driver: hidparse.sys, 3/13/2019 01:36:58, 46080 bytes
| | | 
| | +-+ Dispositivo de teclado HID
| | | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC336
| | | | Matching Device ID: HID_DEVICE_SYSTEM_KEYBOARD
| | | | Service: kbdhid
| | | | Driver: kbdhid.sys, 3/13/2019 01:36:58, 44544 bytes
| | | | Driver: kbdclass.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 67896 bytes
| | | 
| +-+ Dispositivo de entrada USB
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC336
| | | Location: 0000.0014.0000.003.000.000.000.000.000
| | | Matching Device ID: USB\Class_03
| | | Service: HidUsb
| | | Driver: hidusb.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 43520 bytes
| | | Driver: hidclass.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 209920 bytes
| | | Driver: hidparse.sys, 3/13/2019 01:36:58, 46080 bytes
| | | 
| | +-+ Dispositivo de teclado HID
| | | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC336
| | | | Matching Device ID: HID_DEVICE_SYSTEM_KEYBOARD
| | | | Service: kbdhid
| | | | Driver: kbdhid.sys, 3/13/2019 01:36:58, 44544 bytes
| | | | Driver: kbdclass.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 67896 bytes

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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
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+ Dispositivo de teclado HID
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC232
| Matching Device ID: HID_DEVICE_SYSTEM_KEYBOARD
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 3/13/2019 01:36:58, 44544 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 67896 bytes
| 
+ Teclado PS/2 estándar
| Matching Device ID: *PNP0303
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 110592 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 67896 bytes
| 
+ Mouse compatible con HID
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC231
| Matching Device ID: HID_DEVICE_SYSTEM_MOUSE
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 34816 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 61240 bytes
| 
+ ELAN pointing device
| Matching Device ID: acpi\etd067c
| Upper Filters: ETD
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: ETD.sys, 11/8/2017 21:32:00, 615496 bytes
| Driver: ETD.inf, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 91332 bytes
| Driver: ETDCtrl.exe, 11/8/2017 21:32:24, 4064472 bytes
| Driver: ETDUninst.dll, 11/8/2017 21:33:00, 2238168 bytes
| Driver: ETDUn_inst.exe, 11/8/2017 21:33:04, 2793176 bytes
| Driver: ETDApi.dll, 11/8/2017 21:32:10, 2664152 bytes
| Driver: ETDDeviceInformation.exe, 11/8/2017 21:32:30, 2707672 bytes
| Driver: ETDApi32.dll, 11/8/2017 21:32:10, 2093272 bytes
| Driver: ETD_DLL.dll, 11/8/2017 21:33:04, 2243288 bytes
| Driver: ETDService.exe, 11/8/2017 21:32:46, 134872 bytes
| Driver: ETDCtrlHelper.exe, 11/8/2017 21:32:28, 2654424 bytes
| Driver: ETDApix.dll, 11/8/2017 21:32:14, 2981080 bytes
| Driver: ETDCmds.dll, 11/8/2017 21:32:18, 3128024 bytes
| Driver: ETDMcpl.dll, 11/8/2017 21:32:42, 7192280 bytes
| Driver: ETDFavorite.dll, 11/8/2017 21:32:34, 2287320 bytes
| Driver: ETDTouch.exe, 11/8/2017 21:32:54, 130256 bytes
| Driver: ETDAniConf.exe, 11/8/2017 21:32:04, 8918744 bytes
| Driver: ETDIntelligent.exe, 11/8/2017 21:32:38, 2267352 bytes
| Driver: Lenovo.exe, 11/8/2017 21:33:12, 2016472 bytes
| Driver: Lenovo_Win8.exe, 11/8/2017 21:33:16, 2016984 bytes
| Driver: LenovoAPI.dll, 11/8/2017 21:33:12, 2592472 bytes
| Driver: ETDSMBus.ini, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 9667 bytes
| Driver: ETDSMBus.sys, 11/8/2017 21:32:50, 32328 bytes
| Driver: TouchpadEnableDisable.exe, 11/8/2017 21:33:26, 2301144 bytes
| Driver: WdfCoInstaller01011.dll, 11/8/2017 21:33:26, 1804688 bytes
| Driver: Button_ClickPad.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 118272 bytes
| Driver: Button_SmartPad.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 113152 bytes
| Driver: DnD01.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 74752 bytes
| Driver: DnD02.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 98304 bytes
| Driver: DnD03.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 83456 bytes
| Driver: Edge_Auto.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 4378624 bytes
| Driver: Edge_Inertial.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 794112 bytes
| Driver: Edge_Scroll.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 1215488 bytes
| Driver: Rotation_Twist.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 212480 bytes
| Driver: Rotation_Clockwise.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 110592 bytes
| Driver: Scroll_Auto.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 2421760 bytes
| Driver: Scroll_Inertial.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 1012224 bytes
| Driver: Scroll_No_FreeScroll.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 686592 bytes
| Driver: Swipe_3F_LR_PageupDown.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:10, 300032 bytes
| Driver: Tapping_1F.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:10, 68608 bytes
| Driver: Zooming.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:10, 293888 bytes
| Driver: Press_3F.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 90112 bytes
| Driver: Continuous_EdgeScroll_H.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 1902080 bytes
| Driver: Continuous_EdgeScroll_V.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 1576448 bytes
| Driver: Continuous_Scroll_V_2F.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 2278400 bytes
| Driver: Continuous_Scroll_H_2F.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 1594880 bytes
| Driver: Scroll_Reverse_V.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 628224 bytes
| Driver: Scroll_Reverse_H.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 409088 bytes
| Driver: Edge_Reverse_V.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 579584 bytes
| Driver: Edge_Reverse_H.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 407552 bytes
| Driver: Win8EdgeSwipe_Left.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:10, 720434 bytes
| Driver: Win8EdgeSwipe_Right.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:10, 147766 bytes
| Driver: Win8EdgeSwipe_Top.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:10, 267604 bytes
| Driver: Continuous_EdgeScroll_Reverse-H.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 1902080 bytes
| Driver: Continuous_EdgeScroll_Reverse-V.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 1569280 bytes
| Driver: Continuous_Scroll_Reverse-H_2F.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 1637888 bytes
| Driver: Continuous_Scroll_Reverse-V_2F.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 2237952 bytes
| Driver: Edge_Auto_Reverse.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 2697216 bytes
| Driver: Edge_Inertial_Reverse.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 792576 bytes
| Driver: Scroll_Auto_Reverse.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 2393088 bytes
| Driver: Scroll_Inertial_Reverse.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 1041920 bytes
| Driver: PTP_Swipe_3F_Up_Down_Left_Right.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 889344 bytes
| Driver: PTP_Tapping_3F_Cortana.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 84992 bytes
| Driver: PTP_Tapping_4F_Notification_Center.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 674304 bytes
| Driver: Win10_4F_Desktop_Switch.avi, 11/8/2017 21:21:10, 236648 bytes
| Driver: ETDSetup.ini, 11/8/2017 21:21:08, 2691993 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 61240 bytes
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 9/15/2018 04:28:19, 110592 bytes
| Driver: ETDCoInstaller15016.dll, 11/8/2017 21:32:20, 231128 bytes

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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      Drive: C:
 Free Space: 40.8 GB
Total Space: 243.6 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: NVMe WDC WDS256G1X0C-

      Drive: D:
 Free Space: 858.9 GB
Total Space: 953.9 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: ST1000LM035-1RK172

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System Devices
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     Name: Puerto raíz PCI Express
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_A111&SUBSYS_380417AA&REV_F1\3&11583659&0&E0
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 10.00.17763.0168 (Spanish), 1/7/2019 22:13:30, 421376 bytes

     Name: Controladora de High Definition Audio
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_A171&SUBSYS_380317AA&REV_31\3&11583659&0&FB
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 10.00.17763.0001 (English), 9/15/2018 04:28:15, 104960 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\drmk.sys, 10.00.17763.0001 (English), 9/15/2018 04:28:15, 98304 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\portcls.sys, 10.00.17763.0001 (English), 9/15/2018 04:28:15, 381440 bytes

     Name: ELAN SMBus Driver
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_A123&SUBSYS_381717AA&REV_31\3&11583659&0&FC
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ETDSMBus.sys, 15.06.0004.0001 (Chinese (Traditional)), 11/8/2017 21:32:50, 32328 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\Elantech\TouchpadEnableDisable.exe, 11.00.0000.0001 (Chinese (Traditional)), 11/8/2017 21:33:26, 2301144 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\WdfCoInstaller01011.dll, 1.11.9200.16384 (Spanish), 11/8/2017 21:33:26, 1804688 bytes

     Name: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 Wireless Network Adapter
Device ID: PCI\VEN_168C&DEV_0042&SUBSYS_090117AA&REV_31\4&8A7C3A3&0&00E2
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\Qcamain10x64.sys, 12.00.0000.0697 (English), 9/15/2018 04:28:15, 2338304 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\qca9377_2_0.bin, 9/15/2018 04:28:15, 1132480 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\Data9377_2_0.msc, 9/15/2018 04:28:15, 97202 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\eeprom_qca9377_1p1_NFA435_olpc.bin, 9/15/2018 04:28:15, 8124 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\eeprom_qca9377_1p1_NFA435_olpc_LE_1.bin, 9/15/2018 04:28:15, 8124 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\eeprom_qca9377_1p1_NFA435_olpc_LE_2.bin, 9/15/2018 04:28:15, 8124 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\eeprom_qca9377_1p1_NFA435_olpc_LE_3.bin, 9/15/2018 04:28:15, 8124 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\eeprom_qca9377_1p1_NFA435_olpc_LE_4.bin, 9/15/2018 04:28:15, 8124 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\eeprom_qca9377_1p1_NFA435_olpc_LE_5.bin, 9/15/2018 04:28:15, 8124 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\eeprom_qca9377_1p1_NFA435_olpc_LE_6.bin, 9/15/2018 04:28:15, 8124 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\eeprom_qca9377_1p1_NFA435_olpc_LE_7.bin, 9/15/2018 04:28:15, 8124 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\eeprom_qca9377_1p1_NFA435_olpc_LE_8.bin, 9/15/2018 04:28:15, 8124 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\eeprom_qca9377_1p1_NFA435_olpc_LE_9.bin, 9/15/2018 04:28:15, 8124 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\eeprom_qca9377_1p1_NFA435_olpc_LE_10.bin, 9/15/2018 04:28:15, 8124 bytes

     Name: Puente PCI ISA estándar
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_A152&SUBSYS_380317AA&REV_31\3&11583659&0&F8
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\msisadrv.sys, 10.00.17763.0001 (English), 9/15/2018 04:28:18, 18744 bytes

     Name: Puerto raíz PCI Express
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_A113&SUBSYS_380817AA&REV_F1\3&11583659&0&E3
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 10.00.17763.0168 (Spanish), 1/7/2019 22:13:30, 421376 bytes

     Name: Puerto raíz PCI Express
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1901&SUBSYS_380417AA&REV_05\3&11583659&0&08
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 10.00.17763.0168 (Spanish), 1/7/2019 22:13:30, 421376 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) HD Graphics 630

Aun estamos investigando. No tengo datos adicionales que puedo dar por el momento.

Amigo tengo el mismo problema, tras la ultima actualizacion del parche el juego va de una manera terrible. Mi computador es de alta gama y no deberia tener problemas al jugarlo. Antes me rodaba en las configuraciones mas altas y ahora no puedo jugarlo ni en bajas, pense que era un problema con el servidor pero veo que otras personas no lo tienen, porfavor necesito ayuda. Mi equipo utiliza sistema operativo windows de 64 bit, 16 ram geforce gtx1060 de 6gb y windows 10

Hola buenas tardes, tengo el mismo problema desde la nueva actualizacion, sin problema me corria entre 90 y 100 fps pero ahora da bajones hasta el grado de llegar a los 40-50 fps lo cual hace imposible jugar en determinados momentos. Y aclarar que todos mis drives estan actualizados. Espero puedan resolver este problema a la brevedad ya que al hacer alguna raid es practicamente imposible jugar por el lag. Tambien hay momentos en el juego en que se congela alrededor de 3 segundos y despues de 10 segundos de nuevo se congela el juego por 3 segundos. asi aleatoriamente durante el tiempo de juego, asi me a pasado a mi y a varios jugadores con los que juego.

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Yo actualmente estoy presentando el mismo problema y sin ninguna solucion por parte de soporte tecnico, desde una actualizacion con window 10 experimento bajas de fps y poca fluidez del juego siendo que tengo mis drivers actualizados y sistema operativo tambien y el cual es requisito segun uds para obtener un rendimiento mas optimo .Espero puedan dar alguna respuesta concreta a este tema por que practicamente es injugable teniendo bajas de los 80 fps a 20fps, espero puedan ayudar.

Este es un tema que fue hecho hace un ano. Por favor crea un hilo nuevo y explica exactamente lo que te está pasando. También agrega un DxDiag. Copia y pega el archivo de texto y pégalo entre 2 ~~~ así:


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DxDiag Aquí

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Si tienes problemas en pegando el archivo, puedes usar pastebin y agregar lo del fin del enlace.(Por ejemplo 123456 para pastebin.com/123456)

Como este es un hilo de 2019, lo voy a cerrar.